CR4 Member Titles

If "500+" is a "Guru", then:

• 500 - 4,999 = Guru
• 5,000 - 9,999 = Magnus Guru
• 10,000 - 999,999,999 = Summa Guru

I think we should go ahead and bestow the title 'Deity' to Lyn for the the number of his posts. ;-)

Or, "One Who Has No Life".

Hey, it's all about time management.

Sorry no religious connotations....

Guru does confuse some.

In 2009, Roger Pink published a list of users vs posts.

He included the names of users along with the number of posts.

I'm not concerned with who has posted the most, but rather more with the distribution of the numbers. Might help to put titles to groups.

If this is too much work, never mind. I'll let the creative juices flow tomorrow, regardless.

Anything below 100 should be considered a Browser.

0-100 should be termed.....browser

100-300 should be termed.....member contributor◊

300-500 termed.....member contributor level 2◊◊

500+......Guru level one♦

200+ GA's....Guru level two♦♦

500+ GA's....Exalted Guru♦♦♦

1000+ GA's....Golden Exalted Guru♦♦♦♦

2000+ GA's.....Oracle

I contend that the number of GAs is meaningless unless you contrast that to the number of posts made.

You can have 2,000 GAs, but 10,000,000 posts. That means 0.02% of the posts were worthy of a GA.

Conversely, you could have 500 posts, but only 100 GAs, which would tell you that they might not say much, but when they did speak there is a 1:5 chance that there might be some wisdom in their post - at least as far as the voting public is concerned.

GA's and OT's are both poor indicators of the true value of posts. Interesting, none the less.

Now, if both GA's AND OT's were included in the member's count.........................

But, number of posts was the topic. not GAs.

I see it (titles) as mostly a record of longevity and participation.

Deity is a little too pretentious, I think.

Out of interest, I have assembled the ratios of GAs to total answers for each participant to this discussion:
Anonymous Hero 8.08%
Brave Sir Robin 3.94%
brich 7.15%
cristle 8.12%
dhayanandhan 2.31%
Kilowat0 6.50%
lyn 3.82%
phph001 4.18%
Phys 2.52%
redfred 6.41%
Solar Eagle 5.51%
Usbport 11.02% <respect>
70AARCuda 2.06%

<--- Psst. 20% Well I did have a GA. Seems it was taken away maybe?

http://cr4.globalspec.com/comment/1076777

That post is an 'almost' Good Answer, it needs a score of +2 or more to be an 'actual' GA, just like a post needs -2 or less to be an 'actual' Off Topic.

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I read over that thread, and your idea has merit, so I tossed you a GA vote for that. NOW it's an 'official' GA.

Please look at the profile of msamad - 973 posts with an incredible 245 GAs at this point of time.

But when you get a GA for a post like http://cr4.globalspec.com/comment/266719 on an engineering forum, but not one for a post like http://cr4.globalspec.com/comment/490794 I think it's hard to use GA:Post Ratio as a measure; especially since a lot of the old active members take a conversational approach to their postings, and also hung out in the Bath and Cr4wl where GA's were viewed in a different light. So the most 'active' and thus the most likely highest contributors to the forms would have a lower ratio.

But I do like some additional levels to the naming; as I'm approaching 500, I will soon garner the title of Guru - which I am far from compared to the horsepower and value others bring here.

Dear Mr.Solar Eagle,

Regarding the GA - the Good Answer(s), few times this issue is raised in this forum. Some times the GA vanishes, are numbers reduced. How it is happening - I do not understand. On one occassion, I sent a message to CR4 Admn, about this. I am of the view that there should be some standard to be developed about this.

As one of the CR4 Member stated - I also feel that it is not that important how many GA one member is getting. How much we are able to contribute should be the criterion.

Further, in the SANSKRIT language the oldest language in India, there are some ranking about the GURU. 1st Stage is GURU. 2nd stage is MAHA GURU. MAHA means(In Sanskrit language) THE GREAT. Like this there are 10 stages. I will try to locate from my books, and post it here. 7th stage and above that is considered very near to God.

DHAYANANDHAN.S

that sounds interesting, would like to read what you have.

And it supports my theory that the term 'Guru' indicates that the person with this title is, to quote from a dictionary " a recognized leader in some field or of some movement"

But I have no suggestion to offer as a replacement.....

I like the sound of MAHA GURU, but I think that's just because I heard it in a 3 stooges episode....also this may have religious connotations, or ethnic specificity...old people are mostly opposed to change, and we here are mostly mature and set in our ways....So I think in the end, with no compelling reason to change, things will remain as they are....status quo

"I like the sound of MAHA GURU, but I think that's just because I heard it in a 3 stooges episode"

"I'm not a Maharincess, I'm a Henna-rinses!" -Lucielle Ball

She never hid the fact that, while she was a natural redhead, she used the technology of the time to 'amp up' the red for the audience/camera.

Well, dhayanandhan, old buddy, cleanliness IS next to godliness! At least Ben Franklin, and the Holy Bible agree on this point.

Confucious say: "He who would stand near God, though proud and of great stature, will be humbled." This especially applies if God is busy creating something. God creates, we are only at the point of mimicry.

The idea of a good answer rated by others needs more "meat on the bones".

(1) Did it actually address the OP question/discussion point?

(2) Does it express the impossibility of proposals that indeed are physically impossible?

(3) Does the answer provide a clear alternative, yet viable viewpoint?

(4) Does the answer make the reader actually think about the topic at more depth, or do additional research on the topic?

I agree with your sentiment however we need a reality check here. CR4 is NOT a peer review site for scientific publications. We are not even an authorized help desk for any product line or engineering discipline. CR4 is just a social site. The replies and comments here should have only as much gravitas as any comment made at a bar or other social gathering.

I can totally agree with that. To claim otherwise would open a pandora's box of legality.

My two cents worth, renumber and rename the categories thusly:

• 0 - 99 - "Browser"
• 100 - 499 - "Active Contributor"
  
• 500 - 2,499 - "Expert"
• 2500 - 4999 - "Guru"
  
• 5,000 - 9,999 - "Oracle"
  
• 10,000 - 999,999,999 - "Wizard"
  

No:

• 10,000 - 99,999 - "Wizard"
• 100,000 - 999,999,999 "Wizzard (with two zeds)" In honor of Terry Pratchet's most famous 'Wizzard' on Diskword, the only one who had to have his title sewn onto his pointy hat, (and spelled it wrong when he did the sewing), Rincewind.

(That 'hit me in the feels' more than I thought it would. Fare the well, Terry, thank you for all the laughs.)

On second thought, I agree with others here saying get rid of 'guru'. So I revised my titles:

• 0 - 99 - "Browser"
• 100 - 499 - "Participant'
  
• 500 - 2,499 - "Active Contributor"
• 2500 - 4999 - "Oracle"
• 5,000 - 9,999 - "Wizard"
• 10,000 - 999,999,999 - "Curmudgeon"
  

Idea! Why not simply 'replace' the TITLES with the NUMBER of posts....duh!

• 500 - 4,999 Guru
• 5,000 - 9,999 VOR (Verge Of Retirement)
• 10,000 - 999,999,999 CC (Chatty Cathy) _{With respect Lyn, S.E. ...}

The original "Chatty Cathy"....

First, what is the point of having a posting title of Browser with zero posts. This title will never be seen.

Second, if we are going to discuss the CR4 title I think titles based purely on cumulative posting totals is misleading. A running total for the past three months or year would be a better metric for any titles IMHO.

Let's change Browser to Lookie Loo.

Face it, you're never gonna unload those t-shirts....

I'm gonna give 10 free ones to everyone with over 30,000 posts.

Good news for me as many of my shirts are getting holes, but at the current rate of my postings it is going to be a race to the finish to see if I end up bare chested like Putin or not.

What about having a quality ranking. Good answers or almost good answers should act as some sort of multiplier or be a separate ranking like uber + guru.

the word Guru, does give a false sense that if a 'guru' replies to you, he or she MIGHT know what they are talking about.

The term guru should be removed as it does not mean you are an expert, only that you have more spare time on your hands.

The problem is what to replace it with, or leave the status quo!

Gee - guess I'll have to post a whole lot more to keep my wife impressed. She has no idea the title "Guru" is not based on good posts - just quantity. Of course I've not told her the truth.

I noticed that it takes 0 posts to be a browser, which makes sense. They are just looking and don't have anything that they would like to add to the discussion(s).

I also notice that someone who posts 1M times falls off the chart.

I think that anyone who posts often should be called a guru. If someone has taken the time to post that many times, they've earned the right to be considered an expert ... well, at least in most cases.

Keep up the good work and thanks for creating and maintaining this site.

• 500 - 4,999: Plebe
• 5,000 - 9,999: Scribe
• 10,000 - 999,999,999: Orator

Or, leave it alone.

How about:

• 500 - 4,999 - Guru
• 5,000 - 49,999 - Besserwisser⁽¹⁾ (German for 'Know Better' or 'Know-it-all')
• 50,000 - 999,999 - Savant Derriere (French for - do you REALLY need this one translated?)

Yes, there is a bit of 'irreverent' humor in the 'above Guru' titles, but I feel that anyone prolific enough in their postings would be able to take those titles and turn them into badges of honor. Besides, all good Engineers need a decent sense of humor, an appreciation of the absurd, not only to recognize potential good ideas within jokes, but also to be able to takes themselves down a peg at times. With all the power out advanced knowledge and training gives us over those without the training, it's good to be self-effacing at times, to stay humble⁽²⁾.

Sidenote ramblings:

1. While working on a mad scientist/absent-minded professor costume, I developed an interesting character to go with the outfit: Meisterprofesser Besservisser, from Visenheimer Acadamy in Duseldorf. (Spelling adjusted to reflect the pronounciations in that tongue-twister.) The REAL challenge with the name was the alphabet soup of titles that followed. The schtick for the introduction was for Besserwisser to introduce himself, handing over his buisiness card as he starts rattling off the the titles, then handing a second card, which is a continuation of the first, since there wasn't room for all the letters, then handing a THIRD card since the second card wasn't enough for the overflow, all while still giving his titles in rapid, Danny Kay 'patter song' style, WITHOUT repeating a title.⁽³⁾
2. We've all seen the results of Engineers who design without humility. Remember the Tacoma Narrows Bridge? The Hyatt Regency Collapse? The fire on the USS Forestall (Also known as the Forestall Fire, or the 'USS Forest Fire')? We all need to remember the limits of the materials we're working with, know the outside influences that might interact with our designs, and be sure our designs are documented well enough for proper and safe training of the users.
3. Yes, I know a person with more than two or three titles would just use his most prestigious title followed by 'Esq.' but Meisterprofesser Besserwisser is a comic character, the ultimate 'know-nothing know-it-all,' who is skating by on undeserved reputation and the fact that most people can't understand his explanations and therefore assume they're deep and brilliant.
   

Some of us may consider the proposed new 'Guru level' as a challenge.

I'd like some sort of back-tracking system. The more paranoid of new menbers think their is some sort of old-boy club. None of CR4's regular posters do so. Sign me up right now if I can disguise. Their is little I've posted that I would retract, but an issue with CR4 (as with all social forums) is people feeling 'hit upon'. A comment by anybody should be judged on merit. It matters not how long I have been here - CR4 has many infrequent visitors who con tribute hugely when they do.

The GA concept does not work. It functions much like a Facebook 'like'. I do click the 'GA' stuff, but the only answer on any given topic is to read all.

Member titles are fun, but time does seem to show that new visitors do not always get that joke - and it is a joke. Just mild mannered fun, and some mild mannered fun has always been part of CR4.

"Member titles are fun, but time does seem to show that new visitors do not always get that joke - and it is a joke. Just mild mannered fun, and some mild mannered fun has always been part of CR4."

A agree wholeheartedly, hence my suggestion that the titles above 'Guru' translate to 'Know-it-all'⁽¹⁾ and 'Smart-@$$.' If you've been here long enough and posted enough to earn those titles, you'll wear them proudly, like the embarrassing nicknames the team members give each other in a bowling league, to go with the horrible puns built into the team names.

Notes:

1. Specifically, 'Know-nothing know-it-all,' 'besserwisser' is not a title of respect, but of sarcastic derision.

It's perhaps not clear, but I agree with that point.

Yeah, mayhaps 'besserwisser' is a little too obscure if you don't know German, but 'Weisenheimer' just seemed to obvious, plus, it would lead to repetitive titles, as 'Weisenheimer' is typically used to mean 'Smart-@$$,' just like the literal translation of 'Savant Deriere.'

I think the titles are basically useless and misleading as they imply a level of understanding, experience and communicative ability that is not founded in fact. The GA's are uncalibrated as they are often given for humorous, cynical or clever ripostes rather than the insight and value of the answer. I've also noted that most GAs go to the more frequent commentators. Maybe the titles should be:

Don't talk

Talks some

Talks often

Talks a lot

Worth listening to

Won't shut up.

Maybe one can look at the Karate type 'Belts'.

How about this:

500 - 4000: Guru

4000 - 16,000: Zarandas Guru

16,000 and beyond: Oh Mighty Favog

How about inverting the whole thing;

10 OT - Annoying

100 OT - Admin known, Bogus foreign post

1000 OT - Contentious

10000 OT - Bath Poster

100000Ot - <suggestions welcome>

Perhaps the next level titles should have a more academic flair, something like:

BS = Bull Sh*t

MS= More Sh*t

PHD= Piled Higher and Deeper

...and Lyn should get the honor of setting the levels!!

I prefer the acronym definition of Boring Stuff, Meaningless Stuff and Purely Hypothetical Drivel.