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Build Your Own Computer - Picking Parts (Part 1)

Posted July 15, 2009 8:00 AM by stevem

Every six years or so my home PC gets a little long in the tooth and I build another, near state-of-the-art one from scratch.

First I couldn't run Win95 on a '286, then I couldn't run Win2K on a '486 and now, even though XP runs OK on an Athlon 2100 I simply cannot play or capture, much less edit, HD 1080p video which is what I want to do. So it's hardware upgrade time again.

For those of you who have considered building your own PC, it's really not all that difficult. You certainly don't need degrees in electrical engineering and computer science, just some patience, willingness to read through the instruction manuals and a modicum of manual dexterity. There are potential problems along the way which the manuals don't warn you about and that is what this blog is for, to help you avoid making the mistakes I have in the past. Hopefully, other useful suggestions will show up in the comments. Also, there's a certain sense of satisfaction in using a machine that you built yourself. So let's begin.

The first thing to do is to set a performance goal and a budget, then do some research to see if your goal is feasible within that budget. Depending on your present system it's entirely possible to get a 10% to 30% boost in performance by simply upgrading your CPU/RAM/HDD's: find the bottleneck(s) and upgrade them. In my case, however, the CPU/RAM/HDD's and motherboard are all bottlenecks and replacing them all will require a new power supply, so I'm building a completely new system and keeping the present one as a backup.

Performance Goal: At least double all major performance parameters (CPU speed and number of CPUs, RAM size and speed, HDD size and speed, graphics capability). The system must be reliable for at least six years so we'll be using high quality components.

Budget: I'm already paying $2/day just for cable internet access and I use the computer for at least a couple hours every day so I don't think it's unreasonable to pay $1/day for the computer itself. Over six years that's around $2000 and that will be my allowance for this project. Adjusting for inflation, that's comparable to what the previous four systems cost.

Upgrade Path:

CircaCPUSpeedRAMHDDsRemovable MediaGraphicsOS
19858028612 MHz1 MB40 MB5.25" Floppy32x240DOS/Win3.1
19918048633 MHz8 MB200 MB3.5" Floppy640x480Win3.1
1998K6-2450 MHz256 MB500 MBCD R/W1024x768Win95/98SE
2002Athlon 21002 GHz2 GB2 TBDVD R/W1920x120098SE/XP/Kubuntu
TargetQuad Core4 GHz4 GB4 TBBlu-Ray3840x1200XP64/Kubuntu/Win7

After about 30 hrs of research I found that I could reach the target within budget except for the 4 GHz CPU. Nobody makes them yet. A little more research reveals that with the right CPU/motherboard combination I should be able to overclock a 3GHz CPU to 4GHz without too much trouble. (The 3840x1200 graphics above is spread over 2 24" monitors) Here are the parts I decided to use. (Disclaimer: I'm not affiliated with any of these companies, it's only that for the first quarter of 2009, for my situation, they deliver the best bang for the buck IMHO and my experience with them over the years has been mostly positive. YMMV.)

CPU: Intel Q9650 3 GHz Quad Core w/12MB L2 cache

CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9700

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3P

RAM: 2X OCZ3RPR16004GK PC3 12800 7-7-7 Reaper DDR3 2GB RAM modules

Graphics Card: Sapphire ATI Radeon HD4870

Hard Disks :2X 300GB 10kRPM SATA3 WD Velociraptors in RAID0 (System/Apps/HD scratch)

2X1TB 7200RPM SATA3 WD Black HDD's

Removable Media Drive: LG GGW-H20L Blu-ray/HD DVD R/W

Power Supply: Antec Signature SG-850

Case: Antec P182SE

Monitor: Samsung T240HD

Once you've decided what parts you want to use, shop around. Take a month or so and keep an eye out for specials, rebates and bundles that can save you hundreds. For example when Intel announced their latest CPU the one I picked dropped 40% in price. Stay away from the bleeding edge unless you really want it or it will bleed your wallet for only a modest performance increase. I also received $140 in rebates after 12 weeks from the above companies. (Keep copies of all the documentation, some unscrupulous companies have been known to rely on the odds that after 3 months you'll have forgotten about the rebate. If you run into one of these be sure to use the words 'rebate fraud' when you call them up. You'll get your rebate real quick.)

Now that you have all your parts …....

It's time to assemble them into a working PC and that's the subject of next weeks blog.

Click here for Part 2.

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Re: Build Your Own Computer, Part 1

07/15/2009 6:45 PM

Hi SteveM - Great suggestions! Really enjoyed the Upgrade Path chart, and agree that (6) years makes good budgeting sense. My last build was in 2006 or so, and much of the software - XP Pro, Visual Studio, Office 2007, etc. - that I purchased for it, was at a steep educational discount I qualified for while taking continuing-ed classes at local community colleges (New York's Capital Region). For me, the combination of DIY PC and classes helped me keep my skills sharp while keeping costs low. Looking forward to Part 2. - Larry

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Re: Build Your Own Computer, Part 1

07/16/2009 1:37 AM

1. Sweet machine. Wish I had it myself.

2. I understand the bottleneck(s) of which you speak. Does everyone/your target audience? Most people think that the "end all - be all" of computers is the CPU speed. But if you have a 133 Mhz FSB, too little RAM (therefore the swap file), RAM speed that is slow, or a slow HDD/transfer speed from the HDD, then a 999 Ghz CPU won't help much.

3. Since you obviously know what to look for (better than me), can you give some insight into your decision making process in part 2?

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07/17/2009 4:50 PM

You're exactly right, it's a balance.

A friend of mine has a 12Mpixel camera and yet the pictures I get out of my 6 Mp one are far superior. Why? They skimped on the lens on his, mine uses some nice Carl Zeiss optics. It's the same thing with computers.

The two important parameters of computer components are bandwidth and latency. As an example, if you want to get to a destination 250 miles away as quickly as possible you could fly or drive. Assuming the plane averages 500 mph ( high bandwidth ) vs. a car at 50 mph it makes sense to fly right? But if you wind up waiting in the airport for six hours ( high latency ) then driving would get you there faster. Same thing with computers, having a very fast CPU does not equal better performance if it is spending 80% of its time waiting for data from memory.

I was careful to pick high bandwidth (PC 12800) / low latency (CAS 7-7-7) RAM that would complement the motherboard and CPU capabilities.

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07/16/2009 10:57 AM

Nice package; you may find one of my next builds interesting:

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD5 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920

mushkin 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 998691

4x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

XFX GX285XZWBF GeForce GTX 285 1GB Black Edition 512-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card

LG Black 6X Blu-ray Disc Burner & HD DVD-ROM Drive SATA Model GGW-H20L

A little more bang for buck and greater expandability options for the future, I expect to upgrade the processor within a year after some of the edge wears off. These Seagate HD's are designed for video production and are as fast as the raptors because of the double bandwidth but quiet for editing in the same room

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07/17/2009 4:03 PM

Nice system. I considered the i7 but considered it too expensive at the time.

The raptors in RAID 0 are more than fast enough for 1080p, quiet too.

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07/16/2009 12:12 PM

Re: "If you run into one of these be sure to use the words 'rebate fraud' when you call them up. You'll get your rebate real quick.)"

I know insurance companies hear the words "Dept. of Insurance" clearly in most states, because they get their license to do business in states via the Dept. of Insurance.

I'm curious. Does the phrase "rebate fraud" have to do with Consumer Protection on a state level or federal level? FTC maybe? Or is it something else?

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07/17/2009 7:38 PM

I don't really know.

Most rebates come from 'fulfillment centers' not the manufacturer or distributor of the product. If they say 6-8 weeks for the rebate to arrive and you still haven't received it after 12 weeks, call them and ask to speak to a supervisor. If you explain that you have copies of the original documentation, are willing to send letters of complaint to the FTC, BBB and the manufacturer and distributor then you will get your rebate, usually within a week. This has happened to me on several occasions. Make noise, they usually listen.

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07/16/2009 1:39 PM

I have built my own PCs since the early 90s. In my opinion, it is the only way to go. I can get a PC that is suited to my particular requirements and at a very good cost.

The one item that I would add to this is that I find I get my best performance/cost ratio when I go one or two steps off the bleeding edge of technology.

For example, I built my last box a year and half ago. The quad cores were the latest and greatest. The latest quad cores cost almost as much as the cost of the whole PC including a samsung 24 widescreen that includes a HD TV off air tuner and a cable tuner and many more video inputs. It was about 500$ but a great buy. So I went with a fast dual core that cost 1/5 the price (~250$) of the latest technology. This PC still screams. Besides the TV/monitor the other piece of gear that I do not skimp on is the video card. I spent 450$ on very nice NVidia although this was about two steps below the latest tech.. The higher performance video cards were only fractions better but cost about 3x the card I bought.

The whole cost to me was about 1300$ with the lion share of that taken up by the Monitor and video card. Plus I can re use the monitor on my next build which will save cost.

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07/16/2009 2:19 PM

Thats a good measuring stick. I remember in January of 2007 the Kentsfield Q6600 quad core was priced at $999 and in September 2007 had dropped to $279 and now $200 it has remained one of the best buys since; especially for HD video rendering. An $229 then an now $168 E8400 Wolfdale dual core given good RAM will run nose to nose with the Q6600 quad with the exception when rendering HD video but not much less.

I don't build end of the road machines. I maintain objectivity with my customers to produce equipment adequately configured, that over time can receive improvements without jumping through hoops. The build in post is configured to be a continuously improved project.

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07/17/2009 4:11 PM

Agreed.

The Samsung T240HD has an hd tuner and a gorgeous picture. I paid $350 for it and now it's $300 at Newegg.

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07/16/2009 3:11 PM

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4633206&CatId=4070

Check out this Mobo. Up to 24 gigs of ram w/ 64 bit OS. That is what I would like to start with but I think I will wait 6 months and pick up the board half price.

Form Factor:Extended ATX
Processor Socket:Intel
Processor Interface:LGA1366
Processors Supported:Intel Core i7
Intel Core i7 Extreme
Additional Technologies:HyperThreading Technology
Supports 45nm CPU, Intel QuickPath Interconnect
Multi-GPU Support:SLI Ready
CrossFireX Ready
Front Side Bus:up to 6.4 GT/s
Northbridge:Intel X58
Southbridge:Intel ICH10R
Number of Slots:6
Number of Pins:240-Pin
Maximum Memory Supported:4GB - 32bit
24GB - 64bit
Memory Type:DDR3
Memory Supported:800MHz DDR3
1066MHz DDR3
1333MHz DDR3
1600MHz DDR3
Triple Channel Supported
Max. Memory Supported Per Slot:4GB
Channels:8 Channels
LAN Type:10/100/1000Mbps Gigabit
Port Type:2 x RJ-45
RAID Support:Yes
RAID Modes:0
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10
5
PCI Slots:1
PCI Express X1 Slots:1
PCI Express X16 Slots:4
PS/2 Keyboard Connectors:1
USB Ports:12
FireWire Ports:2
LAN Ports:2
IDE Headers:1
Serial ATA 3.0Gb/s Headers:9
ATX Power Connectors:1 24-Pin Connector
PC Power Connectors:1 - 8 Pin
S/PDIF Connectors:1 - Coaxial, 1 - Optical

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07/17/2009 1:06 PM

Thx for doing this, i dont have any computer exp. and can hardly use one, but im mech inclined, what are my chances of completion? ball park figure on how hard this is....

What is your opinion of ubuntu? Im having troble w/ it. Lynn

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07/17/2009 4:25 PM

Mechanical aptitude and patience is really all you need. After all the research it took me about four hours to assemble the system (stay tuned for part two).

Burning in, overclocking, benchmarking is another few hours. The long part is re-installing all of the software.

I use Kubuntu (Ubuntu with the KDE UI). It's closer to the look and feel of Windows.

For web browsing, email, writing documents, spreadsheets etc. Linux w/ Firefox and OpenOffice 3 does everything I need. It's fast and more secure than Windows.

There are many, many other applications I use regularly (e.g. video editing) that only work under windows.

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07/21/2009 2:25 PM

SteveM, thanks for teaching a novice, your help is most appreciated. Lynn

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07/18/2009 10:19 AM

Funny anecdote - after snickering when my son upgraded to an led-lit water cooler system for his computer (admittedly for the cool factor) I'm now working an avionics program with liquid cooling.

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07/18/2009 10:34 PM

Ah! An old dog can learn new tricks...

The old IT Professor snickered when I configured RAID in my 2001 home computer; at about the time the adage 'this is you're sign' was popular

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Re: Build Your Own Computer - Picking Parts (Part 1)

07/23/2009 10:34 AM

Well done Steve! You nailed down the performance/costs balance well, IMO. On my last upgrade (Spring 2008) I selected the top-of-the line motherboard (at the time) - the Gigabyte X48T-DQ6 and selected a pretty-close-but-less-state-of-the-art CPU, an Intel E8400 (Dual-core, 3GHz, 45nm, 6MB L2, 1333MHz FSB). Down-selecting the CPU saved me a few hunderd $'s. The MB accepts 3GHz Quad's so I can upgrade there when folks start dumping them (haven't checked prices recently, wait, OK, about $300), but I've been satisfied with the dual-core so far. BTW, we've got virtually the same monitor, Samsung T260 here, the result of too much coffee and walk-through Best Buy. Not doing any 1080p at the moment...

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Wow, that's a fast bus!

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You do. We went to high school together.

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05/25/2011 7:16 PM

I am certainly not a computer guru, but my thought on computers is: you must have TWO computers. One for serious non-internet use and a cheaper one for on-line internet. On-line viruses can disrupt a computer when you are trying to do serious work like Autocad or writing a novel. Best to keep the two separate.

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05/25/2011 7:44 PM

I know how you feel, but IMO, that is not very efficient.

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06/01/2011 7:07 PM

Just right click that Internet connect icon and disable it when working (:

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