Terror Attack in Mumbai. India.

What is role of Corruption in happening of such sad events? I'm sure most people will agree that more the corruption, higher probablities of such incidences.

Maybe, but these types of attacks are more likely due to ideology rather than corruption, money, or ego.

If you look at the recruiting tactics for self sacrificing terrorists you find that the emphasis is on ideology.

Corruption of an individual assumes some form of self reward such as money or power. Being self-serving would tend to rule out sacrificing one's life. The same goes for money or ego.

If you consider the commanders that ordered these terrorists to act (assuming they were not lone wolves) you are also probably talking about ideology that motivates their behavior as well.

If you look at indian history how good kings were defeated, because few corrupt people helped intruders, and there is no shortage of such people who provide teroorists' easy ways for few thouisands rupees.

It is happening in neighbouring country too.

No doubt that corruption is used as a tool by terrorists, but the terrorists themselves are driven predominantly by ideology.

Terrorism is a name applied to freedom fighters in some cases. Were the French Resistance during WW", terrorists? I dont think so. In my country where we rid ourselves of the British by force,we did so with brave freedom fighters. It was a response to a murderous campaign of hundreds of thousands of innocents. We had a famine that cost us almost a million lives and the food and livestock, we had was taken by the British, and the population denied, and that my friend is terrorism. People can only take so much and they retaliate. I never look on the IRA as terrorists but brave freedom fighters. I saw the activities of the US military in Vietnam as a terrorist act also. I admire the US but some of tehir activities need to0 be questioned. Being a mighty nation does not mean that your actions are always correct. The British have a terrible record around the world for murderous acts and yet they dare condemn freedom fighters who wish to repel their illegal occupation of our lands?

I think the definition of terrorist is sufficiently loose that it invites issues like who is a freedom fighter and who is a terrorist.

My best definition probably hinges on what the target is and how they engage their target. I can see a group fighting for a cause and attacking a military unit or opposing a force as freedom fighters. I can't call that same group a freedom fighter if they attack innocent civilians, women, children, and the old and feeble. Or using civilians a shields or employing children as impromptu fighters, regardless of their cause.

Well in my country we lost thousands of innocents at the hands of the British and that will slot them into the ranks of terrorists? We certainly think so. The so called terrorists the IRA fought against the British and drove them eventually from the majority of the island. That in my book is an act of heroism. The British wnat us to remember a few acts by the modern day IRA but they air brush out their own atrocities. Freedom fighters actions by the Irish are catagorised as terrorist acts but the British slaughters are not. Duh I am missing something here.

Nice attempt, but again focused on 'current events' in the current political/media take of one side. Leaving out bombing of cities, shelling of towns and burning/slaughtering of villages, it still leaves the historical parallels of say the Confederate Army and such as the Iran/Iraq War, as 'unsolved'.

Attacking civilians,bombing schools & hospitals,firing artillery shells,taking into custody suspects and not producing before a judge,not telling the place of detention to relatives of detainees or lawyers,killing and disposing bodies,passing draconian laws,not recruiting minorities into police/army,not developing areas where minority lives,refusing jobs, checking their houses, threatening and asking for bribes to avoid arrest,kidnapping and asking for ransom,saying if anyone is missing that person should have died,inciting religious leaders against minority,writing in constitution that government's duty is to preserve a certain religion,keeping females as sex slaves,saying members of armed forces cannot be prosecuted ,telling minorities "why don't you go abroad" ,imposing army rule for long periods in certain areas and so on should be banned by UN and superpowers should support UN. Let there be peace.

Not tool, but partner in that business

Let me ask you, then. What do you believe motivates people to blow themselves up in a market?

Is it money?

Is it ideology?

Is it compromise?

Is it ego?

The four are commonly known in the intelligence community as MICE.

I'm trying to analyze the root cause of the problem, not so much the accessories to the crime.

Blowing up oneself, the supreme sacrifice, has to be ideology, however wrong. It is the rabble rousers who ought to be shot.

The worst example i have seen is 5 soldiers of a piece-keeping force blown up by a 10-year-old girl with a bomb in a tender coconut. What was her ideology? What about my friend, the soldier's, widow and the two orphaned children ?

WHY ?????

Horrible story I am sad to hear.

Unfortunately, I have been told many more before that and I expect to hear many more.

Why is a simple question, the the answer is anything but simple and is much more than we could ever hope to cover here.

I can'y fix all the problems in the world, but I can make a difference in my own little corner and that is where I have to start. If ever our corners should meet, we should sit down and have a good drink. We will both be very tired by then. ;-)

What actually a peacekeeping force do?. They are supposed to separate the two parties which are fighting and create a peaceful atmosphere. If peacekeepers take one side and destroy the weak(without political authority/suppressed/oppressed/ depressed/ massacred) they should be allowed to vent their grievances in some form if UN and international community do not care for them. The best solution is UN to give at least one seat in UN for every community in the world. Now in UN ,english speakers have six or more seats,arabic speakers may have 10 or more,chinese speakers may have five and so on while many communities which have a population of say 30,40,50,60 million etc have no representation compared with small communities say 2000,000 having a seat in UN. What is going on in this world?. What Nostradamus predicted may happen.

I won't use word motivate. Brainwash is right word.

It is easy to brainwash poor and illiterate. So, money and education.

Corrupt people are also driven by wealth in any form.

Take 10 cases, and scan entire operation for these two components. I bet you'll see a funding partner.

I agree, Vorah. People who blow themselves up are victims, deceived and exploited by parties who have something else to gain.

Even the witchhunts of the 16th century, ultimately, were driven by personal gain. The targets' property was confiscated by the church. There are many examples of greed masquerading as ideology.

Every terrorist attack has direct economic consequences. Anyone who watches the markets is aware of it, and that there are winners and losers in the economic fallout after an attack. This is where completely unscrupulous individuals (or organizations) stand to make large sums overnight from apparently "ideological" attacks, and it would surprise me if they did not do so.

You are right it has affected business in the markets. My friends who own different shop tell me that there is downfall of 25 to 30% in the business here in Mumbai after these attacks.

Not surprising, a very predictable effect. And the business lost in Mumbai is picked up somewhere else. That is how it goes.

It's interesting in this case, that at least two of the attacks seemed to be focused specifically on the jewelry trade. Makes you wonder where that lost business is going.

You have my sympathy.
I'm fed up with it too, we see the troubles in Northern Ireland bubbling to the surface again.
There was a youth interviewed on TV who said it had been going on for so long you couldn't do anything about it... he saw the rioting so joined in to 'help out'.
Completely moronic illogical behaviour.
I'll bet any terrorist when questioned about why he does it wouldn't be able to provide a cogent response without resorting to nonsensical platitudes with which he'd been indoctrinated. I don't suppose they could explain what they actually want to achieve. The same behaviour is gernerall observed in most 2 year olds who will throw a tanrum if they don't get their own way.
I think a lot of terrorism is actually about control & money, (plus some blind anger and hatred) rather than religion.
I'm sure in N Ireland there is money behind it... blow it up and then get the re-building contract.
Del

When you live in an area you see exactly what happens. The trouble this time around centred again on loyalists who wished to abuse nationalists. Same as what started the troubles many years ago. Problem with the north of Ireland is that Britain allowed and encouraged the mistreatment of nationlaists by loyalist and this lead to a backlash from nationalists.

Both sides are not equally culpable. The peace process initiated by the nationalists is being daily threatened by loyalists, intent of destroying the lives of nationalists. For the rcord the violence in Belfast was initiated by loyalists who burnt out nationalists, aided by the B.Specials(a sectarian thuggish mob, since disbanded). The nationalists marched for civil rights(like your black brothers were forced to do in the states) and were beaten by the loyalist gangs and the police force and the British rmy had to intervene to protect nationalists. Learn a little about the situation please. I am amazed that the facts are being slightly and more sometimes. Domination of a minority was the root cause of the problem and it is not gone away yet. Granted there is some equality now and votes are democartic unlike previously. No longer can the Paratroopers mow down innocent people etc but we have a long way to go.

Now it is Oslo in Norway around 78 people have died in bomb blast. Similar situation like Mumbai. You can defeat Hitler in the war but not Terrorist. What is there agenda? Why innocents people are being killed by them?. Any solution to this heinous crime?.

Toll now at 91 and may go higher. According to police it is a single man and not terror related. That is, no links to any terror groups. Police say it is the work of a madman, but it is too early to tell what the real motive is.

Any solution? You and about 6.8 billion other people would love to know that.

This is another instance of when seconds count, the police are only minutes away. It breaks my heart to see this.

Hi Hero,

It is terror act executed by mad single man. Police are still trying to investigate. But I learn from press that local Islamic group has already claimed responsibility, may be just to confuse police.

Well, they claimed responsibility....then they have responsibility. After all thats exactly the sort of thing Islam considers acceptible behaviour.

There is....you find them...and you kill them, when and where ever you find them.

You can't reason with someone incapable of understanding reason.

WTF? I can't believe I even saying this (is there a Blue Moon about? LOL), but I'm finding myself in total agreement with both 34point5 and Garthh in regard to their most recent statements!

Unfortunately, age old hatreds together with differences in politics and religious beliefs around the planet are hard pressed to die..... ***sigh***

Wow.

This was a cry in agony by an Indian. Did not need any answers. There aren't any. As shown in Scandinavia.

Thankful for the sympathy/empathy.

Sad to see the post becoming a source for local rants. No matter how justified.

Every guy who takes some innocent lives has some lofty reason to justify himself. No way you can reform him.

If you go back long enough, you will see injustice....Cain and Abel ? Pandava vs Kaurava ? Rama vs Ravana ? Indian mythology is about Good vs Evil. Naive maybe ?

Anyway, lets get off this. Resilient Mumbai is already back to normal.

Yes Mumbai is coming to normalcy as if it is routine affair for Mumbains. But scar remains. Now jewellers are thinking of moving out to far away suburbs where they want to create tight security of their own. They have lost faith in local police who are active now and will become lax after few months when there is peace.

I never imagined that my this blog would initiate Irish vs British controversy. Please close the topic, no use of brick batting. Monster is somewhere else.