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11/26/2013 3:31 AM

How smart are you explain what is a sky hook.

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11/26/2013 3:36 AM

Go to your company stores and ask for a long weight, and a left-handed screwdriver to fit it. They'll explain while they're looking up the bin locations.

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11/26/2013 3:48 AM

sorry no.

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11/26/2013 5:05 AM

Thinking, please wait ....

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11/26/2013 5:02 AM

What about a new bubble for a spirit level?

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11/26/2013 6:53 AM

Relative bearing grease?

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11/26/2013 10:54 AM

those are right next to the muffler bearings

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11/27/2013 3:43 AM

What about a bag of sparks for the grinding machine.

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11/26/2013 3:37 AM

Do you mean skyhook?

I am smart: I know Wikipedia!

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sorry no.

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11/26/2013 3:53 AM

Then you need to tell us what you mean.

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11/26/2013 4:42 AM

Which one of them is not?

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11/26/2013 2:13 PM

My book says this is the original skyhook! You don't know what you are talking about!


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Post Edit: Sorry for the duplication - I posted before going down the page to read the others

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11/26/2013 4:45 AM

I am even smarter! I know GOOGLE!

(if you thought I give away my google results - nooo waaay!)

How about:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sky%20hook

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Sky+hook

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11/26/2013 5:48 AM

They are in the tool stores alongside the metric shovels and the reclining crowbars.

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11/26/2013 9:04 AM

No, no. Just round the corner from the large box of short circuits.... - no, not that one. The third one along. Yes, that's it. Have a look in there. If there aren't enough then have a word with the Storeman and he can order some in to arrive in a couple of days.

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11/26/2013 7:09 AM

In the shipyard, we kept them right next to the keys to the sea chest.

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11/26/2013 7:18 AM

As close to real item I can get.

The other is what we send novices to get to get them out from under feet.

When your done finding it. The water table needs to be watered on my drilling rig.

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11/26/2013 8:06 PM

"Watering the water table' might not challenge certain people enough to hep them grow.

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Alternate tasks could include: 'Level the water table... and check the legs to see what you can do about the wobble.' or 'Extend the leaves on the water table' or even 'Formally set the water table... with service for 6'

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Having someone check various departments for two additional valve seatings (and shims for the water table leg and eliminate the wobble) because the water table will be set for six, might be amusing.

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11/26/2013 8:13 PM

Do you have to serve seafood at a water table?

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11/26/2013 7:28 AM

Do you mean the suspension principle for cars ?

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11/26/2013 8:49 AM

How smart are you ask what is a sky hook?

You should always end an interrogatory sentence with a question mark!

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11/26/2013 7:23 PM

I giving you a GA.

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Aside from the more obvious stuff, one of the quirks that makes most of your shorter snarkier remarks fun to read, is that some part of your brain had the mischievous habit of introducing a little sabotage, related to exactly your point of contention.

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Yesterday you berated someone for not knowing the relationship between density volume and mass, but then wrote the relationship incorrectly.

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Today, the sentence that you wrote, just prior to the admonishment for failing to complete the construction of an interrogatory with a question mark, isn't a model of exemplary sentence construction itself. I believe there is a word in between 'you' and 'ask' when it was in your head, but that word got lost somewhere between there and your comment (look on the floor perhaps).

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Thank you for you. You are a credit to curmudgeons everywhere.

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11/26/2013 7:50 PM

Yesterday, I didn't care. I was mocking them.

And it's density "," volume and mass. There's a comma between the first and second words in a series, only the last word should be preceded by and, as you did.

Today, also mockingly, I copied and pasted the OP's sentence exactly, then substituted the word "ask" without adding the obvious "to" before ask.

I'm an asshole who's in to details, what can I say?

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11/26/2013 8:17 PM

Are you really 'in to details'? Are you sure you might not actually just be 'into details'?

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Manannán Mac Lir is in the minutiae. (To me is has a better ring to is than saying 'the devil is in the details', and it still kind of rhymes, so it must still be true).

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11/26/2013 8:30 PM

Yes, and no.

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11/27/2013 4:26 AM

Whatever one is, one should strive to be the best at it and righteousness is a vital aspect of good curmudgeonry. So allow me to be of assistance.

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'In to' is an adverb followed by a preposition, while 'into' is a preposition. 'In to' is usually the result of the two words aligning, but 'in' typically modifies the verb and 'to' is just the preposition that happens to follow. 'Into' is used as a preposition that indicates direction, position, or transformation, as well as the modern slang meaning 'devoted to, interested in, or involved with'.

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This example might help:

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'We turned the criminal organization into/in to the authorities.'

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When 'into' is used, it means we made the criminal organization the authorities.

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When 'in to' is used 'in' modifies 'turned' and means we handed the criminal organization over to the authorities.

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I've written this because you seem to be as into the minutiae as I am.

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11/27/2013 8:43 AM

I am no more in to, nor do I indulge in, "modern slang" than I am inside the details.

I am interested in, pay attention to, and try to be correct, when discussing details.

Symantics is also an interesting subject.

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11/27/2013 9:11 AM

I having trouble reconciling this most recent comment of yours with the sentence that encourages this branch in the conversation.

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'I'm an asshole who's in to details, what can I say?'

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I have trouble understanding, if this is not a misuse of 'in to' what this sentence actually means. The only way it makes sense to me is corrected to 'into'. Otherwise, 'in' would presumably be modifying is (' 's '), which is perplexing. What does it mean to 'is' in an 'in' way???

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I can only surmise that your intended meaning is that which is properly written using 'into'. That meaning, using 'into' to express 'interest, devotion, or membership in something', AFAIK is still considered "modern slang". Even if it has become standardized in the contemporary period, that wouldn't alter the fact that it is slang popularized in the modern period. ...but perhaps I am wrong about that.

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11/27/2013 12:55 PM

Sorry, I believe that you are incorrect in your interpretation of the rules of grammar.

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11/28/2013 1:13 AM

I'm okay with agreeing to disagree.

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On a related subject, I too am somewhat envious of your efficiency with words.

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11/28/2013 1:22 PM

Happy Thanksgiving to you too.

It's sometimes difficult to remember that this is <just> an American holiday.

I think our grammatical difficulty may lie in the context.

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11/27/2013 2:49 PM

Lyn-

Wasteful with words definitely not (I envy you on that one)

To the point and intelligent, definitely

Oh by the way, another GA for this one.

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11/27/2013 5:49 PM

Thank you for the kind words.

I subscribe to the economic use of the language in the belief that if a few words do not suffice, then either the author or the reader is not well enough versed in the subject at hand to communicate intelligently on said subject. Adding more words will not enhance the quality of the interchange.

TINAC may be an exception to that, and there are also others.

I also feel that if the question requires an in depth answer, it is probably worthwhile to do a search for scholarly works to explain it.

Or, maybe just read the manual.

Happy Hoilday,

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11/27/2013 8:29 PM

Lyn-

Very wise words.

A good holiday to you too.

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11/28/2013 1:24 AM

If you shift the words

'Lyn' and 'too' down one line each

a haiku appears.

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11/28/2013 8:00 AM

truth is not a compromise-

My English ain't bery gud so leme hab yous tells mea wha dooes ik meanda plees.

Is "haiku" a cinnamon for fer "hay yous"?

I don't know so I'll ask the wife. She knows everything and tells me so.

Right now literary isn't my forte. I'm going to make gluttony and football my specialties this afternoon.

Happy thanksgiving To You and Yours.

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11/26/2013 8:59 AM

It's good topic for an internet search engine to play with.

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11/26/2013 9:10 AM

Me plenty smart. Me know better to explain sky hook.

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this is

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11/26/2013 10:07 AM

Hey, Its Lew Alcindor The Master of the Sky Hook.......... Fakes Right, Goes left,..... Scores.........

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was....

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11/26/2013 10:10 AM

Are you saying, you think you can take him?...................

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11/26/2013 10:15 AM

well he was #33 AT UCLA and with the Bucks as well. and no I couldn't defend a skyhook. my 6'4" wouldn't get me there.

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11/26/2013 10:38 AM

as a kid......in fifth or sixth grade going in for a layup we would say his name....... we were disappointed when he went home and returned to the Lakers.......

but,....

I think I can take him.......... in about 15, no, ..... 20 years

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11/26/2013 12:11 PM

Can you use a SKY HOOK as a board stretcher?

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11/26/2013 1:04 PM

Depends on the boardom factor.

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SKY HIGH!!!

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11/26/2013 3:05 PM

No. Wire stretcher; but only after applying the proper amount of frequency grease.

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11/26/2013 1:02 PM

Tell them they were out of Sky Hooks, but you did get him some Unobtainium!

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11/26/2013 1:04 PM

Explain it yourself

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11/26/2013 1:51 PM

"This is a type of cable that would be in orbit around the Earth, with a tip speed equal to its orbital speed (around 7-8 km/s). The tip rotates down, and as it does so, it moves backwards, slows, enters the atmosphere at low speed and picks up a payload from the ground (or the atmosphere). It then carries it up into space."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyhook_(structure)#.27Conventional.27_orbital_skyhooks

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11/26/2013 3:21 PM

Do you like picking up soldiers ?

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11/26/2013 11:39 PM

A skyhook is simply a member of the 70's rock Skyhooks band. Click on the link

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11/27/2013 3:04 AM

Why is that off topic?

Spot on as far as I'm concerned. You just got in before me.

I don't understand the basketball infatuation....maybe we should OT all the basketball references in a blind rage of antipodean spite.....or just not give a rat's, kick back and laugh.

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11/27/2013 2:04 AM

Reminds me of my first job in the electrical trade. The foreman sent a green helper, outfitted with every kind of PPE imaginable, had him sit on a bucket next to a stub up and told him to wait there and catch the ohms that would come out of the pipe...

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11/27/2013 3:19 AM

I have 2 explanations of sky hooks, plural of sky hook!!

First, a musical band from the past, quite good too.

Second, the device my dad used 70 years ago. He was building a couple of rooms on our house, things looked a little shaky at one stage, I queried him, and got both an ear full and a kick in the sit-me-down parts. He explained that if I got a couple of sky hooks, hooked them to the roof trusses, everything would be fine.

Therefore, a sky hook is a length (adjustable) of sturdy material that has a hook on each end. One end hooks onto the sky, the other to the thing needing to be held up.

In those days we didn't have anti-gravity timber, so everything had to be done the hard way.

Oh dear!!!!

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11/27/2013 3:47 AM

You see Baba, there are many different answers.

Which skyhook were you wanting an explanation for?

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Thanks Dolby!

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11/27/2013 9:20 AM

An old Boy Scout prank for tenderfoot scouts. We'd send them to the camp supplies barracks at summer camp (always a 1 mile hike away from camp site) to ask for one of the following, and it was always a rush order:

1. sky hook for the cooking pot

2. left handed smoke turner for the camp fire

3. snipe trap so we could catch snipes in the woods on a dark moonless night

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In the 1930s and 1940s, and possibly earlier, workmen would use a scaffold suspended from two block-and-tackle sets to wash windows, paint or do repairs on high-rise buildings. As there were not any solid attachment points on most buildings, a method had to be devised for attaching the top end of each block-and-tackle to the top of the building. In those days, most high-rise buildings had flat roofs with a low safety wall to prevent accidental falls. These walls were structural, being built of steel before any brick and mortar or any other finishes were applied. A large (question mark shaped) hook was fabricated of heavy steel was hung over the safety wall and the block-and-tackle was attached to the outside end. These hooks were referred to as "sky hooks" by the workmen who used them.
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11/27/2013 1:13 PM

No, that's not it...............

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11/27/2013 9:21 PM

Only Babasiga Knows!

But he left so I think . . .
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You maybe right!

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11/29/2013 5:54 PM

Without resorting to looking it up on the internet, I would guess it is a hook at the end of a cable suspended from a helocopter and used in the construction and lumber fields.

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12/02/2013 5:28 AM

Dont ya know, the sky hook is what you use to catch the ground trap when it fails.

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12/02/2013 11:38 AM

On Chinooks, the sky hook is attached with flight line under the rotor wash.

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12/02/2013 11:44 AM

One other thing, In the 70's in Vietnam there was a type of surface to air extraction called Sky Hook

Must have been quite a ride………..

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12/02/2013 1:09 PM

You're right, I forgot about that.

And I have an ex-Air Force friend who took that ride once. Got picked up by a C-123, if I remember correctly.

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12/02/2013 1:21 PM

I only saw it in the movies......... "The Green Berets" or something........ I could not believe it.

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12/02/2013 3:41 PM

Yep. Called the Fulton Skyhook. I read an account by an agent in China in the late 50's when it was still REALLY experimental. They snatched him off the ground and the snap was so sudden and rough it broke major bones. But since he was in the process of being collected by Chicom agents at that instant, he was happier with the broken bones than he would have been with what THEY might have done.

The next use of the Skyhook included what amounted to a giant bungie cord in the line (as used today) which softened the initial snap, and resulted in what a Seal I knew said felt like the greatest rush in the world, since the pickup was straight up into a path curving in behind the pickup plane so that you went from zero mph standing to about 145 mph laying on your back looking up in about 400 vertical feet of space.

Woo Hoo. What a ride!!

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12/02/2013 4:26 PM

The bungee is what I would think it would have been....... What I understand of this type of extraction, there is little alternatives...... just wondering how many G's are there......

But like any thing military advancements......... they find a use commercially.

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12/02/2013 10:19 PM

Re: Sky Hook- The bungee was inline with the pickup line where the plane would scoop the solid part of the line into the V-wire harness on the plane's nose. The bungee was below that, just above the harness connection to the pickup package's suit.

In application, the Fulton SkyHook works this way -

Step 1 - Unpack the system, unroll the balloons

Step 2 - Couple the balloons to the pickup lines

Step 3 - Anchor the balloons to the ground, begin the helium fill process.

Step 4 - While the balloons are filling, erect the guide rods that form the pickup gate (these get left behind, and I don't see what function they perform, but this is the process described to me, as described).

Step 5 - Hook the pickup bridle to the tops of the gate poles. Balloons are still filling.

Step 6 - Climb into the pickup suit and harness, connect the pickup lines to the harness, face the direction from which the pickup plane will arrive. Balloons are still filling, nearly or completely full, and still close-anchored to the ground.

Step 7 - The final steps (not to be done till just moments before the pickup plane arrives, but this has to be done before the pickup plane is in sight, since the plane's flight crew has to be able to see and guide the V-wire on the nose of the plane to snag the balloon lines), de-anchor the balloons, so that they can run up and be snubbed a couple of hundred feet up by the guide yoke attached to tops of the guide poles, and face the direction the plane will arrive from. Brace yourself for the pickup rush.

Step 8 - Ride, Daddy, ride. And get reeled into the plane some distance after pickup. Enjoy whatever hot coffee or hot chocolate the ground crew can have available while you celebrate having escaped the clutches of the Indians whose backyard you were stooging around in.

The first account I read of this pickup was one from an agent who was leaving from a forbidden area of Southern Red China, and could not walk out through the forces massed between him and the border. It was still experimental then, he was an early test, and his ride was, as I noted earlier, very rough.

The Seal to whom I spoke about HIS ride left about two seconds before a hail of gunfire perforated the air above the hillock where he was waiting, and counting down for the pickup. He said he had his weapons in hand, and was prepared to empty the magazine to delay them taking him, but planned to eat a round before they could actually collect him, if the plane didn't snag him first.

He wasn't at liberty to say why a lone Seal was in that predicament, other than to say it was a singleton mission. I know he was MACV-SOG, CCN, at the time, in Viet Nam. That was one of the few places a Seal would be likely to go Singleton, since the Seal mission profile usually included at least 3 operators. Occasionally a mission would require only two (the recovery of LtCol Iceal Hambleton was one such, and used a US Seal, and a Vietnamese LDNN Seal) but Singleton Seal missions were VERY rare, and the only place I know of where they took place was MACV-SOG, CCN and CCC.

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12/03/2013 2:15 AM

I did a "catapult bungee" jump a couple of years ago for charity - felt like I'd been kicked by a horse (I'm skinny and have little natural padding where it matters). Helluva buzz, tho'.

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