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Power Pot?

04/11/2014 10:07 PM

While I get annoyed watching TV shows with my wife.....our tastes differ.

She was watching an episode of "Shark Tank" and there was a product called Power Pot. As you boiled water in the small pot, it generated enough electricity to light up a set of LEDs and will charge your cell phone as if you plugged it in the wall.

Guess I missed this technology breakthrough - how are we generating electricity here???

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04/11/2014 10:16 PM

Usually if somebody comes up with an idea like this he is very happy to explain that how it works.

http://www.thepowerpot.com/ see here!

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04/11/2014 11:50 PM

You could get a backup battery that would last for a month or more for a fraction of what that costs....30,000mah $25

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Universal-30000mAh-Cell-Phone-Backup-External-Battery-Charger-Power-Bank-/321094487255

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04/15/2014 7:20 AM

Aaaaaarrrggghhh!!!

They've put the Peltier device in the bottom of the pan, so the gas stove is the hot side and the boiling water is the "cold side".

It will probably use twice as much gas to make a mug of coffee or cook your lunch.

You'd be much better off with a hand cranked generator for about $8:-

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Portable-Wind-up-Charger-charger-Mobile/dp/B008UL0PW4

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04/15/2014 2:35 PM

You guys are missing the point. The intent is to use this kind of pot with a wood fire where fuel consumption is not an issue. There are a number of LED lights that plug into a USB port. intended for illuminating a keyboard it would also serve as a handy light source when cooking after sundown and the solar panels don't work.

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04/12/2014 9:16 AM

its energy conversion, no breakthrough its changing heat energy to a SMALLdc current DChttp://amrita.vlab.co.in/?sub=1&brch=194&sim=351&cnt=1 current.

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04/12/2014 10:12 AM

The commercial is funny!

But, I can buy a lot of batteries for $150.00 USD.

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04/12/2014 10:46 PM

Lyn;

If you use that thermopile (thermocouples in an array) then free energy source is for very long period. However, remember that you are using the power from something that is already having a heat source like sun heater or for that matter any heating system. You do not heat to generate small electrical power, but use the available heat to generate this small power. You do not create a sun to have a solar power but use it because it is already there.

Fredski has given good link to thermocouple tutorial. Type-K thermocouple gives about 40uV for 1oC temperature difference. An array can give in multiples.

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04/13/2014 12:21 PM

Yes, but in order to generate that "free" energy the subject of this post costs $150.00 USD.

I'm not suggesting that a small amount of electrical power cannot be generated with this device, I question the economics of it.

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04/12/2014 12:38 PM

If you smoke a lot of power pot, this gimmick begins to look good....

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04/12/2014 10:57 PM

It seems to be aimed at the people camping where they are using campfires to do their cooking.

An array of thermocouples both in series and parallel (for a bit more current) will generate a little power to help charge the battery. Its really a matter of finding which junction materials give the most output in the heat of a campfire.

It isn't enough to do much else, but if you ever waited for water to boil while camping, having the heat do something else is fun.

A solar charger would be faster, but most campers enjoy the sunlight hours moving about and not cooking.

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04/12/2014 11:45 PM

Someone made a comment about a thermocouple. I doubt this is a thermocouple, but is in fact a solid state device that converts heat to electrical energy if there is a difference in temperature. These devices will work both ways, either to convert electricity to a difference in temperature or to convert a difference in temperature to electricity. They are not really what you would call efficent but are better than I would suspect on the surface. I played with one once that was intended to be for a cooler by burying one side in the ground and exposing the other side, painted black, to the sun. The outside got very hot and worked quite well for a while until the plastic mounting melted, destroying the device. With the right materials, this could have been a good source of energy compared to the low quality solar cells available at that time. Today's solar cells are a lot more efficient. The problem with this device is that it takes only a few minutes to heat food, but takes a long time to charge a battery. It certainly wuld not be efficient to haul enough fuel to do the job. I rate this device as an interesting product for those with more money than brains.

If you are camping, you should be trying to get away from electronics. Turn them off except in emergency and you will have all the battery power you NEED.

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04/12/2014 11:53 PM

Camping is for pot, not pot power.

Once you're stoned, you can't dial anyway.

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04/13/2014 12:05 AM

What if you got injured and want to be air lifted and Lyn won't let you call through his cellphone because it was your idea not to use cell phone.

I had Scorpion sting while working farm pump and there are people who may suffer snakebite while camping. Some signaling device can come handy. My one friend in Australia was making dead man's wireless alarm for such emergency.

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04/13/2014 12:15 AM

Nothing new here, and not thermocouples...

"The term "thermoelectric effect"* encompasses three separately identified effects: the Seebeck effect, Peltier effect, and Thomson effect. Textbooks may refer to it as the Peltier-Seebeck effect."

* Their web-page says it works on the "thermoelectric effect".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_effect

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04/13/2014 1:03 AM

Bricktop is right. Not new just not popular. These TEG have been in use for over fifty years and proved quite useful. Expect to see more applications in the future. One truck company developed a 1 kilowatt TEG for power when engine idling was limited by regulations. People who heat with wood can use them. And of course backpackers and campers use them for charging cell phones and GPS or sat phones.

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04/13/2014 9:22 AM

The Power Pot isn't much different than the "Biolite CampStove" that's been around for a few years now.

I have one for camping (amongst other reasons) and it's a fantastic piece of kit to have along with you, because it can burn just about any combustible thing you'd find in the environment you find yourself in. For Preppers, it's absolutely essential to include in a Bug-Out-Bag. Either you have it, or you can make your own Rocket Stove, but that won't recharge your silly cell phone (which incidentally may be useless in the wilderness).

BTW, if you've bugged out because the SHTF, why bring along the damn cell phone in the first place? Bring it along so the the NSA can track you? Carrying the cell gadget goes contrary to the reason you bugged out in the first place....you want to stay off the RADAR. But the nice feature of having a USB charging capability is that your can recharge your radio batteries, or your Night Vision scope batteries, or whatever....

Just saying.....

http://www.rei.com/product/846334/biolite-wood-burning-campstove

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04/13/2014 10:55 AM

this is not a "cement thread", who woke you up?

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04/13/2014 12:02 PM

Okay, yeah right. I'm rarely in CR4 lately because I'm too damn busy lately. Gotta make the bread to buy the puppies "Kibbles & Bits".

I just thought I'd pop in and give everyone a heart attack for the heck of it..... LOL!

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04/14/2014 11:36 AM

For much less than $150 you can get a nicer power supply and one that is entertaining.

Go to a pet store and buy a mouse cage with the exercise wheel within it and some mice. Attach a small dc motor to the exercise wheel and rotate it so it becomes a generator. Attach a voltage regulator to the power output and you now have an entertaining and productive generator. Just think about all the fun you would have watching those tiny creatures put out the horsepower. A real fractional horsepower generator! Operating cost are extremely since you can feed them table scraps. You could even patent it! Patent Office here you come!

Good Luck, Old Salt

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04/14/2014 11:53 AM

Hmmmmm, I wonder if O-CommiCare, aka The Unaffordable Act, would spring $$$$ for over-sized exercise wheels for the nearly 40% of obese Americans? Forget the mice with a large BMI due to feeding them GMO-based table scraps! LOL

Just saying.....

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