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Self Propelled Mower (Clutch)

06/29/2014 11:50 PM

My Honda self propelled mower is 3 years old and the propulsion is now stalling, stopping and then starting back up, but weaker. It just does NOT have the pulling power of last year. I have adjusted the cable tension all the way and while it pulls hard on the gravel or concrete, when I get it in just a little thick grass it stops. This machine used to drag me all over the yard NO MATTER HOW HIGH THE GRASS...now I have to help it with a push.

where would i start looking for a "clutch" if any???

The "clutch" is not included in the warranty and I would like to tackle this myself if its NOT too complicated. I have never owned a self propelled.

Any help is appreciated.

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Re: Self propelled mower (Clutch)

06/30/2014 12:10 AM

Stretchy rubber band?

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06/30/2014 12:14 AM

I never looked under there. I always thought it was some type of clutch.

Yep, there is a belt!

Difficult to change???

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06/30/2014 12:13 AM

Most of these are driven by a simple V-belt that runs between the motor and the front or rear axle.

I've had both kinds. (Not Hondas)

Pull the drive handle and the belt gets tight and away you go.

Could be worn out, stretched or just clogged with grass. I had one fall off once. I've never had to replace a belt.

Here's a You Tube video:

HONDA MOWER REPAIR how to replace the drive belt on a ...

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06/30/2014 7:38 AM

Excellent video. Even I should be able to do that.

I am guessing that I drain the oil and gas out before I start tilting it though.

Thank you for the link.

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06/30/2014 9:15 PM

I put mine up on two 5 gallon buckets. Didn't bother draining anything.

Mine was just full of wet grass, even in Arizona if you cut early in the morning.

I have an attachment that I use now that makes it really easy for me. His name is Alec and he's 15.

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07/01/2014 1:05 AM

Mine was named Joseph and he played hit and run by dodging anything that was in the yard like a limb or a branch...I 'cut' him lose and now do it myself.... ha ha!

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07/01/2014 3:12 PM

I made a stand for my lawnmowers out of some old plywood panels and a 2x4. Cut two pieces of 2x4 to match distance just inside where front and back wheels meet the blade housing (deck), use large self-threading screws after pilot drilling, and you will have a sturdy place to work, or just drain all gas/oil, and flip it over.

Having totally gone through my 40-year old 21" Snapper self-propelled lawnmower, complete with paint restoration to as near factory as I could get it, I took a video of the thing. My only problem is that I got a bit of paint on the final drive sheave, that is tensioned to the final belt by the drive handle. That paint makes the belt want to engage, even when the handle is released. I quite literally have to chase this lawnmower around with a can of WD40 to make the drive mechanism slip for a few minutes so I can get some work done.

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07/01/2014 5:13 PM

There's enough grass left in Lubbock to mow?

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07/03/2014 9:34 AM

Hey Lyn! I has been raining here this year with almost weekly frequency of 1 or more inches precipitation. What a beautiful sight it is! The news stated last night, that we are officially above average for the year. Usually a 3" rain is where the droplets are 3" apart, but not this year.

As to my antique snapper mower, I will probably remove the sheaves, and polish them a bit to make sure there is no sticky paint on the active parts. The tensioner idler pulley does actually release the belt tension, so I do not suppose that is my problem.

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06/30/2014 5:00 AM

...and make sure the cutter blades themselves are sharp and that the cutter rotates correctly.

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06/30/2014 7:37 AM

My "yard" is extremely uneven and those blades look like crap. I will replace.

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06/30/2014 9:05 PM

My wife was using my riding lawn mower the other week and complained that it would not drive up one of the hills any more. I got on it a drove right up!

She asked what I was doing different and I just commented that I weigh about 255 pounds now so it's likely operator related and she needs to think about that for a bit.

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07/01/2014 1:28 AM

Very Brave of you (or suicidal)

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07/01/2014 8:10 AM

Recently completed research indicated women who carry a few "extra" pounds tend to live longer than husbands who mention it..........

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07/01/2014 9:51 AM

Dangerous ground approaching, ABORT! ABORT!

This rates right up there with the pre-dinner question; "Does this dress make me look fat?"

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07/01/2014 9:52 AM

No. Your fat makes you look fat. (Al Bundy)

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07/01/2014 10:09 AM

I don't know about anyone else but I often have difficulty in determining if the question is rhetorical or requires an answer when the question(s) originate from my wife.

Of course, maybe, could be, might be the tone of voice, choice of words, direction of focus, inflection, and/or any one of a myriad of other insufficient male oriented attempts at communicating with the opposite gender.

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07/01/2014 5:33 PM

When my wife asks me that I tell her it's her laziness that makes her look fat.

Fix one and the other will likely quickly diminish!

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07/01/2014 3:02 PM

Do you now walk "lighter" with a high pitched voice???

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07/03/2014 9:35 AM

My wife confiscated mine shortly after the wedding about 8 years ago. I think she keeps the ashes of them in an urn on the mantle.

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07/03/2014 1:11 PM

LOL!!!

One very HOT lady!!!

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07/01/2014 7:53 AM

I had to rebuild mine, the gears are injection molded pot metal and the teeth wear down over time, they are bevel gears and there are no thrust washers to keep them engaged either, at least not in the assemblies I've seen, which makes the wear worse. I bought new pinion and driven gears online and found a nylon washer the right thickness to keep the axle gear and the pinion engaged at Lowes and rebuilt mine better than when it was new for less than the price of a new gearbox.

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07/01/2014 7:57 AM

I should add that yes the belt can stretch and replacing it is a good first step, but more often than not it is the gearbox that is bad.

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07/01/2014 8:16 AM

How do I tell if the gear box is bad?

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07/01/2014 3:39 PM

What is the mower model number?

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07/01/2014 5:54 PM

HRR2169VKA HONDA GVS - 160 SELF PROPELLED

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07/02/2014 3:44 PM

Netmaker, here is a link that discusses this model.

http://www.mytractorforum.com/archive/index.php/t-453241.html

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07/01/2014 4:23 PM

If the gear box gets really hot in operation, that might be a bad sign, or if it makes a grindy sound louder than the mower motor, that could be a sign. If the mower sits there when the gear box input drive sheave is rotating, that is an affirmative sign you need a new one (mower or gear box, your pick).

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07/02/2014 3:34 PM

Typically if the pulley is tight and not slipping but the wheel develops little or no torque the gearbox is toast.

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07/03/2014 10:36 AM

I just changed the front wheels on my self-propelled mower. The plastic teeth on the gears were gone so the wheels did not spin on their own. It was about $35 for two wheels for our Craftsman mower.

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