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Jack and Jill Ran Up The Hill – Who Got The Speeding Ticket?

Posted August 05, 2008 10:44 AM by Jaxy

Conventional wisdom holds that men are more likely to get a ticket when pulled over by the police. In fact, a 2007 Cornell University poll revealed that a whopping 85% of participants thought that males are more likely to be ticketed. Less than 5% of the participants believed that women would be ticketed, with the remainder predicting that males and females are equally likely to get ticketed.

In "Gender Bias in Power Relationships: Evidence from Police Traffic Stops", four researchers from Cornell University's Department of Applied Economics and Management reconciled popular perception with statistical reality. In three out of five areas observed for ticketing rates, women were more likely to get ticketed. Overall, men were only .3% more likely to get ticketed. According to the Cornell study, it doesn't matter whether you're a man or a woman. If you're breaking the law, you're just as likely to be ticketed.

There is an obvious difference between perception and reality regarding which gender is getting traffic tickets. People tend to think that cute girls get off much easier than guys. Where was the "evidence" behind this opinion in the first place? Is it possible that what once may have once been true is no longer the case? The Cornell study doesn't reach far back in time to explore the "cute driver" myth, but its findings are clear.

Should we be somehow "satisfied" that there is equality in the rate of each gender getting ticketed? Although the Cornell study indicates that women are just as likely to get ticketed as men, it doesn't show other biases between different people. What would future studies show if the attractiveness of the driver was taken into account? How would such as study be constructed? And if the results were less than egalitarian, what would we do about it?

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08/05/2008 11:16 AM

I have female friends that have gotten tickets time and time again. But, I also know quite a few girls who have gotten out of them - they recommend shedding a tear or two.

My brother is generally the lucky one out of the two of us, but not when it comes to driving. I try to stick under the radar, and have only gotten pulled over once - the day after I got my license. Thankfully, the guy took pity on me and let me keep my license. On the other hand, my brother has gotten a collection of tickets for a range of things. We both drive too fast and sometimes recklessly, but he is the one who has gotten trouble for it.

Also, my good male friend has gotten pulled over repeatedly for "appearing intoxicated" (in other words, he's 24 years old and looks like the "bar type"), when he was not. Despite his innocence, they always find a way to ticket him for something, even if it's minor. He's a nice guy and not too mouthy, so it's curious as to why he gets so many tickets.

Interesting research though, thanks.

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08/05/2008 11:33 AM

Things are not as they used to be. Thirty five years ago it was quite a different world (watch a episode of the series 'Mad Men')and women would probably get out of tickets due to there being virtually no such thing as sexual harassment and very few female police officers.

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08/05/2008 3:22 PM

Gutsy answer, BiomedWV. Good "Fight Club" reference in your byline, too.

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08/07/2008 10:09 AM

I actually expected to get some backlash for my answer from somebody, but I guess I'm not worth that much. As far as the fight club reference, there's a lot of truth in that statement and even though there's a lot of violence, that movie is very Zen, good stuff.

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08/05/2008 11:53 AM

Since 'shedding a tear' probably won't help us guys much, here's a few things to do which could make the difference between getting a ticket and getting a warning. This is especially important at night as the officers anxiety level will be highest when approaching someone he can't see. Pull over immediately, turn your wheels all the way away from the road, turn on the dome light and turn the engine off. Do NOT rummage in the glove box for papers. Put your left hand outside the door and the right one on top of the steering wheel where the officer can see them. (or vice versa in the UK). Be polite.

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08/05/2008 1:08 PM

You mean that you don't think you can get out of a ticket by shedding a tear? I think this is thought to be untrue by men, but never tested - haha

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08/05/2008 2:15 PM

Haha. That is very true. Guys act like they couldn't get out of a ticket if they shed a tear - but I don't know of any that have tried.

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08/06/2008 12:02 AM

Has the study also checked the depth of the cleavage to the chance of getting a ticket?

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08/06/2008 6:48 AM

The only ticket I've ever gotten out of was the one I was going to get for being in the left lane (A.K.A. passing lane) and not actually passing anyone at the time. Yes our little city gives tickets out for that.

I was new to the area coming from the pharmacy after picking up my meds and knew I had to make a left soon but wasn't sure where so I was in the left hand lane. Well the officer pulled me over and did the usual stuff asked for my license and registration and asked me why I was driving so slow in the passing lane.

Oh there were no other cars in the area so if he wanted to get around me he could have easily. I told him I'd just picked up a prescription from the drug store because I wasn't feeling well and being new to the area I wasn't sure where my left turn was. Well he starts reading me the riot act about being in the passing lane and holding up traffic. (What traffic there was no one on the road) and if he would have been on a call he would have had to slow down or pass me on the right side.

Just then I reach out and push him away from my window. I imagine his eyes got really big and he was shocked that I pushed him but I could not tell I was to busy barfing all over the side of my car and the street. Well he decided that my story was true and warned me that I shouldn't be driving in the PASSING lane unless I was actually passing some one & then let me go home. Now he waves at me every time he drives down the street. He lives about 4 houses up from mine.

Oh and to stay on topic MY wife has never gotten a speeding ticket and she never drives anywhere near the speed limit. OH and lets just say she is VERY well indowed in the chest region.

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08/06/2008 9:19 AM

Possibly a new tip to get out of a ticket - barf

I feel a little bit bad for you, but at least you didn't barf and get a ticket!

How many times has your wife been pulled over?

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08/06/2008 9:18 AM

Oh, what would we do about it? Oh, dear, I'm afraid I have NO idea!

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08/06/2008 11:37 AM

I've gotten plenty of tickets over the years, but usually because I stumbled into speed traps when the police were "fund-raising" for their local government. And I've definitely seen girls let off the hook first-hand, even with a guy (me) in the passenger seat.

However, I've been let off the hook too, and I've never seen anyone get a break like I did one time. Back in the day I went to a small town high school and my senior year I would drive to school (when I didn't skip). I was always late but there were plenty of back roads with no lights that you could speed through to make up time. On one particular day I was really late and doing about 95 on one of these back roads (they were straight and flat and you could fly down them) when suddenly I saw flashing lights behind me. Man was I dead, I mean, what was I gonna say "I'm sorry officer, I didn't expect you to be on these backwoods roads"?

So I pull over and the cop comes up to my drivers side window and says "going kind of fast there, weren't you"? and I said, "Yeah, sorry about that". He says something like "why are you in such a hurry" and I told him I was on my way to school. Then he tells me "slow it down" and gave me my license back and let me go without a ticket. I couldn't believe it. To this day I still think that guy is the coolest cop in the world. He could have taken my licence then and there (I was around 50 mph over the limit) but he gave me a break instead. I never quite sped down those back roads like that again.

In the end I think it depends more on the cop and the situation then whether you're a man or a women.

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08/07/2008 8:55 AM

Does it mention the demographical area of the study? I am willing to bet that there is a significant difference between trends in rural Louisiana and downtown L.A.

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08/07/2008 9:01 AM

From what I remember, the five areas seemed like random sampling. I can't remember if the study was that concerned with demographics (If you are that bent out of shape about it, go look for yourself - the study is linked under 'Resources').

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08/08/2008 12:14 PM

Easy, get an attractive girl and an attractive guy. Then get an ugly girl and an ugly guy All must be the same age and similar builds. For safety sake, have them a break law that is least likely to get someone heart or worse. Do that for a year in different parts of the country. Then total the tickets

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08/09/2008 12:01 AM

If it is so easy - why don't you do it?

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08/18/2008 2:07 AM

Interesting, but how large was the sample? Was the poll taken just from the Cornell University area? I have to believe the results would be different in other geographic areas like a small town in Ohio, or down South where the police are "Good ol' Boys". If the geographic area is around ANY University, the Police force knows that anything that could be construed as sexist or unfair or politically incorrect would be jumped on in a heartbeat, and rightly so. It's bound to be different in an area where there are no watchdogs.

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08/18/2008 7:58 AM

For the study, they chose 'five distinct regions of the United States: Bloomington, Illinois; Highland Park, Illinois; Wichita, Kansas; Boston, Massachusetts; and the entire state of Tennessee.' It seems pretty diverse geographically-wise. The poll, however, was conducted in various classes at Cornell University. These are the people who were asked who was more likely to be ticketed. This is where the whopping 85% voted that men would be more likely to issued a ticket.

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