Time will tell if this lives up to its hype, though the lessons of history belay much confidence.

They must be paying the grant writers (it can't be done by one) a fortune so that a Swiss company can get a leg over. Were has this all come to? And more of it all the time.

The technology seems to do what its supposed to but why do they need grants? Investors need their returns faster? What ever happened to the idea of growing at a steady rate and not taking other peoples funds to speed things up. I am not even an American but I would consider this an invasion of sorts.

Patriot act my backside, Ky.

Part of it would be communities being desperate to bring in any sort of employment. The city or state is probably writing the grant for them, waiving taxes, throwing money at them.

The problem is that these guys know that and will treat these people in need of employment accordingly. I have seen it before and hope their intentions are not what I think they are but look like. I will rest assured that the people in the right places will do the right thing by all, for now. Good luck, Ky.

I guess we would need to define the right thing

The right thing for the share holders of ReVolt is to get the most money they can...

The right thing for the state of Oregon, is certainly a matter of debate.

No wonder I was getting a bit confused. I could handle a bit of tutoring my self at times. He has improved greatly, say G'day.

But really how is your diesel project coming?

I'll just copy and paste Shyams sentence regarding the above, which sums it up nicely:

"How much green it is going to be will always be a matter of debate and is perhaps an out come of some debate that might have taken place to get to this idea also".

I have some collaborators now and that helps to keep the fantasy at bay. It will come with a big noise and not a thud, to borrow from Shyam again. All this thanks to CR4 and its distinguished members.

"Not long now", I keep saying but have no idea when funds are going to be in place to go all the way. And these guys are building plants and infra structure that will be out dated once my technology is proven and up and running. That is one of my concerns and there are quiet a few like me, in all kinds of fields and applications.

Yes, I must have a Don Quixote gene hidden some where but still, quiet dominant, Ky.

"Not long now", I keep saying but have no idea when funds are going to be in place to go all the way. And these guys are building plants and infra structure that will be out dated once my technology is proven and up and running. That is one of my concerns and there are quiet a few like me, in all kinds of fields and applications.

You are assuming the best possible results... The reality is usually much more incremental. Huge innovations still take 10-20 before there's any widespread implementation.

For me (us) it is not the implementation but to prove the concept, theory in a working unit. I am not talking of changing any of the existing but to ad a little "device" that will change the way fuel is injected. Never mind diesel, I will be using any fuel and very little of it. To get were I am now I had to go big first (in size).

What you see in the above picture has now shrunk to the size of a cigarette lighter. First things first and always keeping safety in mind. HHO?, NO!!. Its been a long time coming and could be introduced faster than you are suggesting, not much faster but I think I will be alive to see it happening. I would already be a happy man if I could see it work in one small proto type. Lets wait and see, Ky.

Well,

yes I've read the hints on various threads.

Garthh

You know what, if nothing works I'll just publish it here on CR4 and let it be ripped to shreds. It would be an interesting thread, believe me and would speed things up or let it come to a full stop. Both I would appreciate, thanks for asking anyway, Ky.

I remember when you arrived & your subsequent transformation.

I know you love to share

You might have a look at this

I liked the quantification of the relationship between the different fuels & compression ratio.

85% of all bait has a hook attached but I am willing to take it.

I liked the quantification of the relationship between the different fuels & compression ratio.

Yes, that is very crucial and depends on the fuel in use and what it is mixed with and were and under what pressures. Its all been done before and only very minute advantages have been recorded in the past few years. It would be arrogant of me to say that I have studied all the possibilities but were my (still theoretical system) sets in I need to know only the basics and not reinvent the wheel. I had to go and research other and if I can believe my partners in crime, so far not tried combination's of fuel and oxidizing agents/propellants. That has been done as well but some combination's are still out there and I'm onto their case.

This is all I can share and am doing it to be and stay up to date and be taken serious and not waved off as some experimentor with too much time on his hands. I am waiting for some devils advocate remarks from said CR4 members and can't wait to answer any unresolved issues and there will be, you bet.

This idea not the product of a thought process but started as an accident or better two, in the space of a few years. What followed then was the verification process which is still ongoing. If all fails I will be slapped around the mouth for a while but that is better than not having tried at all.

Miniaturizing is not a simple process but with modern production means, that can run on CAD, anything is doable and for a surprisingly low price. No, no, I am not suggesting a really tiny engine, "God" forbid.

Once I have tested the device I will try to get finance but I will leave that to others because I can't breath the thin air these guys can.

Besides, there are so many other things that need/take attention and writing applications for GG's is a fine art and one will need professional help if serious abut it.

Good to talk, Ky.

Sorry, this was way off topic. At least I noticed some time later.

Watts is watts

or energy is energy

I'm remembering a gizmo you had advocated for water purification that would help in your endeavor.

The compound has been of interest to me for it's versatility

I don't block any of the off topic & pay very little attention. the conversations go where they will.

I'm being oblique so as not to give away your secret

If I'm right what your are attempting will be successful, though I can't say how successful.

They are clever and are acting in time to grab funds for advantage. They are doing what Government is willing to pay for. People need to look at the real advantage to them. How much green it is going to be will always be a matter of debate and is perhaps an out come of some debate that might have taken place to get to this idea also.

Grants come for big noise and not for small thud. It need not be real but need to be sounded like a big thing else it will not become a thunder but will become a thud.

Very diplomatic Shyam. GA from me, Ky.

Not so much diplomatic, as pragmatic, realistic...

Not taking full advantage of grants, loans, tax breaks, ect, ect, ect, ect.

Is like being out of work & not filing for unemployment insurance out of principle

Soon we may see Solar Panels along every interstate and railroad line in the USA.

They are talking now about printing solar cells like newsprint.

The connections are the tricky bit

Better to have problems you can solve I guess all we have is time then one day that is gone.

The coal industry is not going to take a back seat with out a fight.

Tax credits and stimulius are little good when people can not do the jobs.

http://www.greenjobs.com/public/index.aspx

Thousands of green jobs.

Hype?

These are grants endorsed by short term politicians that generally do not understand the long term implications of some, so-called, green technologies (carbon footprint, etc).