Is This a Scam or What?

SCAM!

"CARB issued an Executive Order number" Where is this imaginary number?

"Air2Nitrous is a patented". Where is the patent number?

The disclaimer says it all. "We promise this will work, but if it doesn't, don't think you'll get your money back".

lyn, with respect, you don't have any idea, i have been working very hard for five years doing DD on this amazing invention and yes it has got a carb issued executive order. Everything claimed can be verified we have never posted any false or misleading information. Believe me when i tell you we are for real. You can contact me through the air2nitrous website. my email address is in the contact page regards mick

if you are in fact the real deal many bright people here would just love to hear more!Please call my bluff, I cant possibly see how sparks, arcs, fields etc. work this chemistry magic. show us more, our validation is worth your time

Contact me privately regards mick

Better yet- Just explain the following, and we'll all be believers!!

:Engines powered by Air2Nitrous technology receive 36.4% more Oxygen and 15.4% less Notrogen than engines without our technology.More Oxygen guarantees better combusion while,less Nitrogen reduces overall Nox emission levels.

This was copied directly from your website. PS- what is Notrogen- the automotive form of estrogen??

Firstly you get a star for being a perfect at spelling but jokes aside, if you go the website and contact me privately i will answer questions i will not give documents but i am happy to answer questions by serious people by email or skype. i cannot copy paste on here and will not waste my time to write it out. lastly it is not really important if your a believer as there are plenty of people that are and their will always be people that question without using time or intelligent questions to get the facts. regards mick

***"lastly it is not really important if your a believer as there are plenty of people that are and their will always be people that question without using time or intelligent questions to get the facts"***

There are plenty of people willing to accept your scam without using time or intelligent questions, that is your problem here. We are unwilling to accept what anyone says without supporting facts.

The facts are that nobody can extract more oxygen from the air than is already available by electrocuting the air.

You are a criminal who preys on the innocent trusting people and an insult to anyone who knows science.

Drew K

And you are a fool for not having an open mind. The truth passes through three phases 1. it is ridiculed 2. it is opposed 3. it is accepted as self evident. lets just hope you have the balls and the decency to email me an apology when we release it. mick

You are perhaps thinking of such great minds as Copernicus, Galileo and Octavian, in your comparison?

Release away, you will find me most contrite.

The mind of almost every engineer I have met is only open to concepts that obey the laws of physics or can explain how those laws are wrong.

I am not a fool, but you sir, are a scam artist and a criminal who preys on the hopeful.

Drew K

I found this...is this your project also?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjXTOlsE8k0

Drew K

all you need to do is select the box that includes this with your order and they'll ship it out right away.

But there's more nitrogen in N2O than there is in air.

Oops, no there isn't. My error.

Good catch!

Notrogen - it means just what it sounds out. No...Tro...jan.

OR, it could be he meant to type Nogogen. Kinda like No...Va, for those automotive enthusiasts who like sitting in dead cars.

This material they are putting forth as gospel, apparently is unscientific, with no factual data.

It has the unmistakable aroma of snake oil in a black, red, blue, or green, or orange box.

LOL...

"No warranty or claim is implied, nor should be construed by this document or any particular portion/section of the document. The contents of this document are provided for informational purposes only and may not be accurate for all locations and situations and are not intended to address the particular circumstances of each user and should be considered informational material for potential customers review and no other purposes. You should not act or refrain from acting based on this information, Air2Nitrous™ is NOT liable for any actions taken based upon any of the information provided."

but just look at all the money you save while saving the planet from harmful emissions. just buy it and report back

WHOA! I though NOX is classified as a "bad" emission gas right up there with methane?

Of course it works!! Everyone knows that creating an electric arc in air forms N2O.... wait a second, it's actually more likely to form other things like NO, NO2 etc... and they hydrolize to form nitric acid....will that do anything to my expensive aluminum heads?

Unless there's a palladium/rhodium screen hidden in there somewhere, not likely. And for the size of the unit the amount produce would seem likely to be very small; also, you have a net loss on the energy input/output anyways so what's the point??

Scam, and probably a combined bill of materials of $50 dollars or less.

"15.4% less Notrigin released" into the "atmosphiric air".

Not even their own legal disclaimers indicate this device work and hence they cannot be held liable.

Avoid like a case of crotch rot, Harry Potter himself couldn't use magic to get this thing to work as claimed. Reminds me of the scam permanent magnet products you put around water pipes that supposedly altered the chemical or molecular structure of the water flowing through it to purify and soften it.

I think I'll buy 2 of them so my car will be REALLY Fast!

Yes, and if you run a flex hose from the exhaust pipe into the interior, you can breathe almost perfectly clean air.

You joke but some idiot with a grand to spare may think, "wow converts air to laughing gas" and kill themselves. Not outside the realms of possibility.

That's just the law of natural selection at work.

That's why we had to invent Darwin.

Work in progress -

the water softeners work though......

This device works as advertised, but it does have a drawback that the seller obviously failed to mention. It attracts horrible green aliens that steal some petrol from your tank without anybody noticing them. S.M.

Any high voltage is likely to produce ozone as the first gas to be produced.
None of the other gasses are produced with electrical discharge.
If they were, we would not have to buy gasses from LIQUIFIED AIR.
Ozone is the most corrosive gas of all. It will even eat glass.
That's why it is used in toilets to kill germs.
It kills EVERYTHING.

We are talking about Nitrous Oxyde here (N2O)... and not about Ozone (O3)

Yes, it does work!

Air2nitrous units are sold in big box stores. They are on the shelves right next to the small box water softeners that have two wires that you wrap around your water pipes, including metal pipes. They really work good according to the sales rep for them.

On the other side of the air2nitrous boxes are the Snake Oil cans, 4 oz, 8 oz, quart and gallon sizes. Containers are also recyclable. Just look for the recycle triangle with the 43 inside it.

Good Luck, Old Salt

It works to separate a fool from his money!

Mad, mad, mad! Even if you could form nitrous oxide by the electrical discharge, you still have the same amount of oxygen going into the combustion chamber. The whole idea of adding nitrous oxide in dragsters, for instance, is to increase the oxygen content over and above the 20% in the atmosphere - the N2O easily breaks down into N2 and O2 at the combustion temperatures, allowing more fuel to be burned, hence more power. N2O has a positive heat of formation (endothermic reaction) hence will release that energy is it decomposes, adding to it's effectiveness.

Just another scam that some poor suckers will fall for.

Nitrous oxide: At elevated temperatures inside ICE cylinder causes higher pressure, and can induce pre-ignition, which under these conditions can and will damage engines not designed and re-inforced to experience pre-ignition.

Buy one of these N2O generators, and you probably will not be injecting N2O, but higher oxides of nitrogen (NOx) into the engine, and causing excessive corrosion wear. I would hold this thing highly suspect. Here is a link on induced corona formation of N2O, among other species.

http://digital.csic.es/bitstream/10261/8223/3/Post_print_Nna%20Mvondo%20et%20al_2001.pdf

On corona discharge production of nitrogen oxides in air.

The impact of 1 pound of N2O on warming the atmosphere is almost 300 times that of 1 pound of carbon dioxide

Yes, and last I checked, 0 times 300 is still 0.

In AlGore's world: x 300 = ...

University of Tennessee coeds have what distinction from scarecrows? Scarecrows are made of old rags, sticks, and straw. The other scares small woodland (and prairie) creatures.

Even if it did somehow work (which I don't believe it does), you need to ask 'what's the energy source for it?' And the answer is, 'your own engine.' It would have to take power from your engine in order to work - so unless it has 'above unity' efficiency (ha!) the net result would actually be a loss of power.

Know what that looks like? The green box with aluminum heat sink fins sure looks like an MSD or similar ignition box. Got a red one very similar looking to that on the tunnel of my '89 Stang.(pure drag race machine)

looks red to me

There is a knock off by another company I tried once that is a match to the box in that apparatus, except it is red. Too long ago to remember who made it.

I could see someone conning the ignorant with a MSD discharge in a tube claiming it causes a chemical reaction to the air passing through. After all, most people know the atmosphere is 70% nitrogen. All those sparks could be convincing.

Drew K

78% nitrogen.

Meh, I was rounding...and only half remembering : )

Drew K

Their test data "Air2Nitrous™ is Effective on Older Vehicles and Machinery" says that the device reduces concentrations of THC by 58%. I don't know about the rest of you but that claim kind of concerns me. You'll probably need that THC to believe the rest of their claims. Maybe, though, they're talking about some other form of THC than I'm used to.

Another in the long line "fuel efficiency boosters" that are all just, as you say, a scam. Think "outside the box"? Sure, there are always people out there who want your money and they need some way to get it. Sure looks like one of them to me.

had they said it was from NASA I would have believed them

Just saying its from NASA does not make it so. I am sure you can recall all the other ones out there that were "field tested" and proven.

Is there a decal on the outside of the box that says, " As seen on TV " ?

I found this little gem in my latest issue of Gizmag....online tech magazine. usually its all good material. I have to assume it was a light day and they required a "filler" so

they ran the story on the Hocus Pocus nitrous kit to save the planet and money it was a laugh

I would rather put a portable N2O plant in the trunk!

LOL

do NOT use this in conjunction with the above or you might be doing wheelies

http://www.tornadoair.com/

I've tried this

the results were inconclusive.

Anyone remember the "Fish" carburettor that claimed 100MPG. It was reported GM? bought the patent to prevent it being introduced. There were many stories about fuel saving devices that were bought by automotive manufacturers to keep them off the market. This could be one of them.

Edit: Out of curiosity, I looked up "Fish" carburettors on the web and found that it has re-emerged and is for sale for $850 by a guy by name of Michael Brown.

looks like a low grade casting to mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CsQIsLCYiAI

I'm not sure how strong the market is for single barrel carbs these days but it has SCAM written all over it

As a kid, I worked in a mower repair shop. I had a surplus of sacked-out mowers to mess with. My favourite experiment involved a Briggs and Stratton and an oxy-acetylene torch set. Introducing the gas mixture into the carburettor, while it was idling, caused the speed to climb until the cylinder head melted. I also discovered that the engines would start and run on WD40.

I have a really old Sears Craftsman edger with a Tecumseh engine (4-stroke, single cylinder, updraft carb). The carburetor apparently is clogged (FUBAR), and I could not remove the needle the diaphragm lifts, to see what is clogging the path. I can get it to run on the following (as long as I keep spraying it in the intake): (WD40, starter fluid, carb cleaner, gasoline).

How about I rig up a small shaft driven pump (I don't want to put an electric system on this as yet), probably a piston pump, very narrow, driven by a cam that pushes a piston to generate high pressure, through a high pressure sprayer type nozzle (with a tiny hole in it), for injection into the air intake after the air filter. I suppose if the cam is two-lobed (presents fuel mist twice each rotation), and that somehow the injected mist can be regulated by recycling a small bypass flow, I could make this run, and also make it control its rpm's.

Anyone else think is worth a shot. I could make a low power home generator out of it, maybe even make it run off natural gas (with some care about how and when the gas is allowed to flow at all), perhaps by starting off on liquid fuel, then switching to natural gas. The problem I foresee is that on liquid fuel, if it runs out of gas, then it is out of gas, and if the engine stops, then fuel flow also stops.

What happens on natural gas, if the fuel flow is not tripped when the engine stalls out and stops rotating? Obviously, this requires electronic control by sensing motor rpm, and if rpm drops off, the fuel valve must absolutely close. I think the low pressure gas header at my house could be too low for such applications, leaving maybe a small option for propane.

Gizmag posted an article on it 5 days ago but have since removed it from their site. Good on them for following up and removing it.

Invitation declined. It's bullshine.

HJJack,ed

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