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Would These Gears Turn?

01/20/2009 9:36 AM

If the image on this coin were made real, would it be able to turn?

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01/21/2009 3:22 PM

It only measures 4.421" long on my screen. But then again, what do you expect from a governmental entity? Always promising more than they can deliver... =b

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01/21/2009 5:36 PM

But your missing something.

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01/21/2009 5:41 PM

It's an unelected ruler? Is it not ready to rule on day one? I already know it is a Socialist ruler.....

(I'm not going to go into any sexual stereotypes...)

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01/21/2009 8:06 PM

If it is 6" long then the metric scale should match at152.4mm not 160+mm.

Or the other way round 160mm = 6.29" not 6" whichever is the wrong one.

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01/21/2009 8:54 PM

as far as i can see the inches are not linear, they are not 2.54 (or the inces are correct and the centimeters that are off)

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01/21/2009 9:13 PM

Count, people, count!

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01/21/2009 9:36 PM

i see now 14 is mising (but an inch is still less then 2.54 cm)

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01/21/2009 9:38 PM

GA, you got it!

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01/22/2009 11:51 AM

The ruler has the following issue;

6 inches is 15.2 centimeters not a whole number 16cm or 15cm.

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01/22/2009 11:55 AM

edited. I missed that there was a second page so I resubmitted.

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01/21/2009 7:06 PM

The gears on coin will not turn because of conflicting directions (odd even argument)

The four gears will turn because of ratio of teeth between the two larger gears and the ratio of teeth between the two smaller gears are equal

larger gears 57 teeth/ 75 teeth =.76

smaller gears 19 teeth/ 25 teeth =.76

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01/21/2009 9:34 PM

Here's a book cover I ran across on the web:

Is the picture a good representation of the formula?

The cover was changed after the first edition.

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01/22/2009 8:19 AM

Nope......they got the red and blue shift bass ackwards

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01/22/2009 10:13 AM

The formula gives a single value, whereas the lengths of the arrows are different. I guess that is a case of the draughtsman re-interpreting.

But the originator had a conceptual lapse as well; the formula is direction free, and needs additional support to make any sort of sense. That is why the classical interpretation (the "New Physics" of the "from Copernicus to Newton" title) started from interaction between a field and a mass.

No surprise then that the later editon copped out and simply showed drawings of some of the protagonists.

[I think I'll write a book "Birth of a New Geometry, from Ptolemy to Newton". We are reassuringly free of data in the matter, so I can write almost whatever rubbish I like, and no-one gainsay.]

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01/22/2009 7:16 AM

Sure it could turn - at the same rate as the assemblage (typically about once in every 23.93 hours if left to themselves).

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01/22/2009 12:49 PM

That coin needs to be thrown into a lake, and the dies that were used to stamp it need to be thrown in afterward. End of discussion.

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01/22/2009 1:43 PM

From the royal mint website:
"The winning artist, Bruce Rushin, an art teacher from Norfolk, based his design on a series of concentric circles telling the story, through symbolic devices, of technological development from the Iron Age to the Industrial Revolution and from the Computer Age to the Internet."

So it's either " 'nuff said" or a two dimensional representation of a three-dimensional arrangement.

(The people at the mint probably knew, but they all know that "it's money makes the world go round"* so why would they worry?
*These days perhaps "go into a spin", so maybe clagged gears would be beneficial.)

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01/26/2009 9:05 AM

That's right!

It's true that money makes the world go round but as things going with the pound it is not likely that it will continue to go around for much longer, at least out side the UK borders.

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01/23/2009 3:21 AM

Yes it will rotate. There is a definite pattern to the gearing arrangement, if you take a vertical line down from the letter O in the word pound, the gears are the same left and right, there is an exception of one extra gear on the left, but as it is the same ratio, it should not effect the out come, the only gear that is not part of the pattern (size) is the gear directly below the letter O in the word pound, There are eighteen gears not counting the one below the letter O, therefore the two gears either side of the gear directly below the letter O in the word pound, are rotating in the same direction, therefore the gear between them can be any ratio. I think

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01/23/2009 6:09 AM

Should have read post #61.

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01/24/2009 7:35 AM

Now look at what you've done Bricktop. Did you intend for this to take on a life of it's own?

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01/24/2009 8:32 AM

"Did you intend for this to take on a life of it's own?"

Well, we'll just have to see.

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01/26/2009 5:26 AM

Cogs can turn if the axles for some of the gears are on sprung sliders. Such an arrangement with five cogs could convert rotational to linear movement.

(I'm not saying it's a good way to do this in general - just that it could work)

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