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Books: Still Relevant for Students?

Posted September 19, 2010 7:35 AM

As this New York Times article reports, some schools are questioning whether their libraries need to continue to carry printed books in this day and age. Some are considering getting rid of most of their physical books and transforming themselves into digital information centers. In the article, some prominent educators, librarians, and thinkers give their opinions on whether books are still needed. But what's your take? Is this a good strategy? What — if anything — would be lost by eliminating books? If you were in today's students' shoes, would you cheer or rue this type of change?

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09/19/2010 9:11 AM

Nothing beats the random-accessibility of a printed book. No electronic technology can reproduce the simple act of flipping through a book, making unexpected discoveries or flipping back and forth between specific pages.

On the other hand no printed material has the ability to hyperlink on specific keywords like electronic media.

Each source of information has its advantages. Both need to be available for students in libraries.

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09/19/2010 11:03 PM

Agreed. And digital storage has not yet proven its longevity.

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09/20/2010 3:44 AM

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Both types of media are needed. Electronic media are especially good in avoiding the need for multiple printed copies of popular or required texts; print media are especially good for reference works, as students typically need to have two or more of these open at once to complete a research task.

Libraries are being hit hard by the cost of maintaining books at even a minimum level of preservation and retrievability. They should be selecting the best volume of a multiple-copy holding, having it carefully repaired and reinforced, disassembling one other copy for scanning and selling the rest as is. This can liberate a lot of space while still preserving most of the paper functionality of the library.

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09/20/2010 3:47 AM

Yup, you nailed it at trick 1.
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09/19/2010 11:35 PM

t's OK for libraries to give up their books, so long as they send them to me...

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09/20/2010 12:40 AM

This is going to happen one day or other.

New generation will be missing that good smell of new books..

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09/20/2010 12:56 AM

...or the even better smell of musty old classics...

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09/20/2010 1:13 AM

You think the I=Ging will ever be in software version? I mean using it for whatever? Don't tell me it is? Never mind, one of my translations will smell better than the other

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09/20/2010 1:57 AM

For this reason, do I collect books, and pay for their storage every month... that one day, someone may, with absolutely no wisdom whatsoever, may ask such a simple question, and choose wrongly, thereby condemning to ignorance and falsehood, generations to come...

That is the death knell of civilization that I fear. I take this as seriously as many people take their right to arms. It is appropriate for all who seek public office to understand what supports the basic fabric of civilization. While information flows faster every day, it is the 'hard copy' of information that enforces it's evidentiary and peristence functions.

The future depends on history, and history depends on books.

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09/20/2010 9:13 AM

Simple reason for me is that I can read books all day long whereas staring at monitor for more than a few hours gives me a headache. I think paper print is still more eye friendly and causes less fatigue. May be future will see better monitor technology.

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09/20/2010 3:19 PM

I can't think of a better way to control what young people are exposed to; and, thus, eliminate exposure from one political/social/religious ideology, and maximum exposure to a "desired" ideology.

While that has been done to a certain extent with hard-copy books (Lady Chatterley's Lover, Lolita and even Catcher In The Rye were banned from my '60's high school library), just think how much easier it would/will be with ebooks!!

Ah, yes, "1984" will arrive eventually, possibly through the NEA and friends.

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09/20/2010 3:53 PM

Or Fahrenheit 451?

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09/20/2010 4:15 PM

Touche...

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09/20/2010 3:36 PM

iT depens due u wan litrat peoles wen tha puters crash?

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09/20/2010 5:18 PM

E-media is too easy to control, edit, delete or change. History has demonstrated many time in the past the power of a BOOK. Smuggled about and passed hand to hand until the idea contained in it took root and no government could deny it's power.

And besides, I don't think an I Pad would stand up very well to my very long, very hot bubble baths. I may have wrinkled a few pages but at least I never worry about electrocuting my self.

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09/21/2010 12:51 PM

finding out whatever you want to know had became very easy with internet. it seems too cool. but i figured out one thing, may be it is psychological, it is hard to concentrate on screen to read text because i always aspect visual things. while with books no unnecessary colors and things which are irrelevant and annoying are not present. and an other thing i feel books gives space to think on it deeply it is not a thing that can be disappeared at just a click or a delete button so it is more promising for me.

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09/21/2010 1:35 PM

Easier to spread propaganda and 'correct' ways of 'looking' at history and current government if all you can do is 'read' their version on an iPad. Unless there are other means to verify or debunk something, we will always be in danger of repeating history's mistakes.

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09/28/2010 10:56 AM

Suppose the emf bomb starts landing, or all the overstressed power grids cascade into a molten pile of scrap. All the precious electronic files are simply gone, period, no tattered copies to be reprinted and redistributed, just gone. Then the true lament will begin for the day the last book dies. As previously stated, ideas and beliefs have been banned for centuries and the only thing that kept them afloat was the believer that kept the cherished copy of that belief hidden away to be shared with others. An ebook library is only a library when the powers on, otherwise it is a black hole of nothing

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09/28/2010 2:33 PM

Next an e copy of the constitution and auto updates. Hard copy is the longest known media to mankind. I find my 1896 History book very interesting with that time period point of view on President Lincoln. Anyone have an 8 track tape player or 5 ¼ flop disk reader?

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09/28/2010 3:43 PM

Yup, still have an Apple ][ and two 5 1/4 floppy drives for it. And, I even have the cassette tape recorder I used to read and write programs from and to before I got the floppy drives.

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09/28/2010 3:04 PM

There is room for both. E-books are nice as you don't have to haul them around and you can just send someone the text by e-mail. However, how many times has everyone here gone on the net to look up a text, only to print it and read the paper version or to put it in a binder, that's sitting on a shelf in your office for future use? Or printed of a report to reference to in a report of your own, because it was just easier to have the paper copy sitting next to you while formulating your own thoughts?

Books are indeed great for reference, but they also have a calming influence and keep you focussed on the task at hand. With the amount of popups, ads and other irrelevant info on the side, electronic media try to distract you at every turn to check out the new this and that. And while you're at it, why not try this new program or that new application for the website you're on.

And then I'm not even starting on the fact that a lot of reports, research papers etc are now only accessable through paysites. But that is a whole other discussion.

Books are still very relevant and provide a certainty that is getting lost in the ever changing internet.

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