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Should the Feds Legislate Electronics Recycling?

Posted November 27, 2010 7:35 AM

The Government Accountability Office — an arm of the U.S. Congress — has issued a report noting that the U.S. does not have a comprehensive approach to recycling used electronics. 23 states have enacted legislation governing electronics recycling, but many say that a uniform federal standard would be preferable. California is, at this point, the only state requiring retailers to collect a recycling fee when electronics are purchased. Some other states simply hold manufacturers responsible for recycling, or covering recycling costs. Which approach makes the most sense to you? And should the U.S. government step in, or leave it to the states?

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11/27/2010 10:58 AM

Those bozos in Washington have two primary tools they try to use to engineer their idea of a perfect society -- the screwdriver of legislation and the hammer of regulation -- and just about any human activity they see could be subjected to their efforts. When they aren't screwing us with laws they are hammering us with rules.

A reasonable response to the mess that California is in would be to avoid doing the same things that helped create the mess. But to the bozocracy, the answer to failed legislation and regulation is more legislation and more regulation.

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11/27/2010 12:11 PM

GA - unfortunately true!

It would be nice if the clowns could do something constructive though.

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11/27/2010 7:21 PM

The less legislation by government, the better.

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11/27/2010 11:01 PM

Absolutley no!

These folks could not find their way out of a wet paper bag if both ends were open.

They need to just shut up and go home. They are complete idiots in Washington. And the sad fact, we put them there.

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11/28/2010 2:01 AM

It's not an option any more, it's an imperative.

China controls 99% of the world's rare earth supplies and distribution.

And you thought they were not going to abuse that position?

Get real.

We are dealing with an enemy here and their agenda is to screw everyone else - especially the United States.

They seem to be mad at us for some reason.

Go figure.

Recycling electronics is going to be just one part of the fight to retain our independence from the Commie ********, along with searching for alternative supplies and alternative materials.

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11/28/2010 11:28 AM

You have a very narrow concept of capitalism and trade.

China is any thing but communist. It woke up and noticed that after 50 years of Mao's garbage, they were going nowhere fast!

They are now a capitalist system run by a dictatorship. Money is now the golden rule. Their whole economy is based upon exports.

Yes they control the vast majority of rare earth elements that the modern world needs. They need the same for all the products they export.

Yes they are ratcheting up prices on those rare earth elements for direct export. They are doing this as any capitalist would. Charge what the market will bare.

This leads to a simplistic Capitalistic solution. Either find alternatives, as Japan is doing, or start locating and mining other sources. Long before China, there were other sources of the materials. China just made cheap, and those sources were abandoned. They are now being revived.

In order for China to screw everyone else, and especially the United States, they would have to stop all trade to those countries. This would totally destroy their own economy.

They would have to fall upon their own sword first in order stick to any one!

Trade wars are another form of MAD (mutually assured destruction). History proves this.

China is a totalitarian state that wants is sphere of influence in the region. It will push, prod, cajole any one to get its way. Yet they need us as we buy their goods.

Trade rules, as war has never led to a lasting solution. One does not shoot ones own foot off, to prove a point.

By the way: we should be recycling all that we can, as to much money goes in the dump. Can the government handle this properly? Not likely.

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11/28/2010 11:39 AM

Whenever some one includes the term commie in their post you can write it off as being from a crank.

Do these people need written instructions on how to get out of bed in the morning?

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11/28/2010 11:47 AM

Yes

But then it may the basis of a conspiracy theory.

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11/28/2010 2:17 AM

But I do wonder how many of the Clowns can fit inside the Clown Car? hahaha

Seriously, my answer to the posed question is NO WAY JOSE! The reason why is quite obvious: as long as there are PACs in Washington and every state capital playing footsie with the elected Mouthpieces (Aka Bozo's) any legislation will become hopelessly flawed, no matter how well intended it was meant to be.......it'll be heavy on regulation and full of loopholes, thereby rendering is useless, and we all know how many holes there can be in a bowl of Spaghetti-Os, eh? Just think (and hold onto your seat for the wild ride) what a new Federal Law will be like when the Bozos down in DC get through writing the legislation. It'd be totally useless, just like the laws on top of laws here in New York, one of the most heavily regulated states in the Union. And if you think NYS has it bad due to the Boys and Girls up in Albany, then just think what the Jerky Boys in DC will dream up! It'll make your head spin even faster than ObammaCare did (and will)!!!

Case in point: When one looks at environmental laws all one has to do is look at the clusterf*ck that the Federal Super Fund became....it became totally useless, like t*ts on a bull!

Just adding my 2 Cents worth (which is worth Zilch in this economy)...

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11/28/2010 10:04 AM

BTW; The way Obozo creats new jobs is to creat more bureauracy; hence more civil service employees.

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11/30/2010 10:57 AM

If the largest employer in the state is the state itself, the resulting society is truly socialist.

That is the goal we see being strived for.

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11/28/2010 11:18 AM

Just what we don't need is more buracracy and civil servants!

The Bush Admin increased the size of the civil servant pool, and now Obama is increasing it even more! With a 13+ Trillion Dollar national debt this is not what the USA needs.....time to slash tha fat.

I go no further 'cause I like to avoid discussion on politics in general...just like religion; it is best to avoid in a forum.

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11/29/2010 1:49 AM

A thousand times NO!

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11/29/2010 1:08 PM

Keep the government out they have ruined enough already, Just what we don't need is another tax or surcharge ! Industry should self regulate just to keep government out. It would be a win-win for all of us.

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