Give Me a Name!

I ran into this on the internet. http://chungjames.daportfolio.com/gallery/163539#2

Hmmm.....it looks like there is nothing new under the sun....

Good find though.

That is awesome! (I'm pissed hahahaha)

I see many of the same influences I had put in my vehicle, plus "Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea"

great job on the suspension too. I like the aircooled heads.. it looks like a mature design, and makes me wonder if it was real somehow... I may have to ask.

Chris

http://chungjames.daportfolio.com/gallery/163539#2

are you the 'guest' who posted the image before? I will give the ga for the find to your avatar (and not the guest), if so.

chris

i forgot to log in, i am not trying to be bad, it was just funny to find it on the web. i like your idea. i think i has come up with something like your idea before.

I wrote to James Chung, and received a reply.

Chris,
Thank you for your kind compliment.
Porco's Savoia racing car was loosely based on combination of the fuselage of his Savoia and Lancia D50.
How did you come across my portfolio? Are you in the entertainment industry as well?
James

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On Sep 18, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Christopher Gorham wrote:
James,

I really appreciate your image of the GT racer. I was wondering if it is a real vehicle? what are the design influences?
thanks,
http://chungjames.daportfolio.com/gallery/163539#2

Chris Gorham

ps.. I'm a huge of an of the COD2 work! well done.

I swear I know people who look just like Porco! (except maybe for the ears)

How about calling it "Christhor" like in Tractor.

Combining 2 religions in a vehicle. Thor being the German god of thunder and Christ the, well, you know who.

The Kristor tames it a bit but still a dead give away. Buy the way, Tor is what the Germans yell when they kick a goal. Just another useless piece of information.

Howzat Mate?

you could name it the Sail

which is what it's going to do in a cross breeze :D

passing or being passed by big trucks, should be exciting too

It will still be shorter than an SUV, with the same footprint.. why would it be dramatically influenced? weight?.. maybe.. but I wouldn't expect it to go out of control. I'll see what I can do about a render with the sail chopped off. It is mostly a visual thing anyway (with a bit of safety for the rider, and visibility)

Chris

you have a tri mast the wheels being the centerboard(s)

crosswinds are one of the reasons you don't see bikes with fully enclosed [dustbin] fairings.

I'm disappointed the Squibble/VisiGuest concept of having the centerpod tilt didn't gain any traction [so to speak]. Have the center pod tilt & move some of the weight to the inside of the corner....

Hi Garthhy,

the centerpod tilt has a lot of traction with me.. I'm actually on the fence, so it has 50% traction. Images are in the works... but it will take a while.

whereas the following changes were easy, although 4 renders takes a couple of hours on my old hand-cranked computer here... (not perfect though) ps... if you want larger versions again.. pm me.

You are going to need some struts on those outrigger connecting arms...

I personally think it would be more appropriate, and technologically easier, to just lean the central body, and to leave the wings and outriggers orthagonal. that makes the lean mechanism just a couple of cylinders and a central hinge..

If the power for each side were local to those wheels, and not in the central body or able to be transmitted by cables, and the steering was 'fly by wire' , then the 'lean' could actually be a translation on a pair of shafts.. so that the entire weight of the central body moves centripetally with the turn. simple actuation for this too..

the images I have shown would be a nightmare to create mechanisms and linkages for. (especially if steering is included)

in response to your comment, I was thinking of simply making the 'wings' (horizontal component) thicker... thick enough to cover the parallel arms... and thereby not limit access any more than it already is.

Chris

& it would increase the fun sensations

maybe some 4wd/steering

some hybred regenerative action front electric, rear ICE a mere 25hp per wheel...

you send the sketches... I'll see what I can do to build it.

on a separate note (from the vehicle design of this thread)

I was trying to work out some 3 axis wheel stuff that could lean 45 degrees, and steer, and obviously roll.. all with the axes at the wheel center... I still think it can be done.. but I'm not sure that the wheel needs to tilt, if the body tilts.. I think it would be better to leave the the wheel (and suspension) vertical. that way you don't need rounded tires either.. flat profile tires also gives a broader contact, and actually makes it easier to accomplish a central steering axis (kingpin)

waiver. these images are just exploratory.. conceptual. they sorta work.. but not quite. I would love to be able to design an electric wheel.. that has power, braking, steering, and rolling (and possibly leaning) all in one package..

I had a complicated "sliding box frame within a box frame" system in mind to go with it, to enable... no drawings.

what do you think... anyone?

Chris

NOW you have my attention- only I am probably thinking a bit bigger than you. Switch modes- unicycle. The cockpit is in the center, gyro-stabilized. If we close the sphere, the entire spere becomes our single "wheel" and we can turn or roll or tilt at any desired angle (even upside down- whatever bakes your cookies). I once saw something like this for calm waters, with a bicycle inside to provide power...

ahahahahahahaha
flexigrips

and various other stuff....

http://streetratmag.com/2010/03/hornet-gryoball-uni-wheel-sportsbike-concept/

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_A_Oxtu2uo4s/SUP0SlweEMI/AAAAAAAAAh4/J7ZcAzenjE8/s400/monowheel-portrait-0707.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Q4ISFunZhus/R4Maa_Z8yFI/AAAAAAAAC4Y/QDjyGZ9ThzQ/2006-05-06-15-43-06.jpg

http://www.scooteringusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/NakedBatteryBikeConcept2.jpg

http://www.scooteringusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Aebulle.jpg

http://alternativevehicles.blogspot.com/

Chris

ps.. I"m sure I've seen more around about 'Uni-wheels"

lean the central body

Far be it from me to say 'told ya so'. Garthh reiterated that point at #210

In acknowledgement of this, and it's 'man-appeal', it is to be called the Squimvie. KrisDel™ Lawyers are watching !

I'm just saying there is a difference between leaning the central body ONLY, and leaning the central body AND the outriggers.

Squimvie.... ummm no. I just googled that too.. no references... so you will have to provide the reference and explanation for us slower moving mammals. If the "Squi" refers to Squrriel.... well I don't understand how "mvie" refers to cat?? shouldn't it be CatSqui or SquiFeli? (reset)

Chris

Squibble/Fellini?

Feline = cat. Squibble = Squirrel ?

Squibble=Kris

Fellini=avant garde film maker

okay... I think I missed some conversations.. I never really joined the bathbreaking thing...

I think we've moved over here :D

Satyricon?

_{(fancy that, someone worked out what it was about)}

Squibline GTM. Patent pending.

Here's one from the X prize competition

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/energy/25766/?nlid=3525

Chris -- I'm just now beginning to catch up with thie thread. Here's something interesting from 87 years ago.......... Ed

On April 25, 1928, Lockhart's Stutz Black Hawk Special streamliner (named for the Indiana town that was home to Stutz's factory ^[2]) turned a warmup run of 198.29 mph (319.1 km/h), with his first official pass at 203.45 mph (327.40 km/h), ^[2] well below the 207.552 mph (334.007 km/h) mark set earlier in the year by Ray Keech in his 81 litre (4178ci) Triplex Special. ^[2][3]

On Lockhart's return pass the Black Hawk Special cut a tire (probably on a seashell), went out of control and tumbled violently across the sand, throwing Lockhart from the car and killing him instantly. ^[1][2]

Here's a link to John R. Bayer's website. He's researching the story of Frank Lockhart.

http://stutzblackhawk.tripod.com/index.html

Click on "Frank's Story". Interesting read. Seems to bear some similarity to our chrisg. Both good looking creative young guys with a crazy streak. Watch out for seashells, chris.

Oh, yeah. Back on topic for a moment. How about "Blackhawk's Ghost"?

...............Ed Weldon

I'm not that crazy Ed... believe it or not, this is a spin-off of the motorcycle safety thread, and this design is intended to be safer than motorcycles, which tend to be scary for me.

cheers,

Chris

Ed, 34point5,

Thank you.

very interesting stories and history. I love it.

I think the Golden Arrow has some features (outrigger style) that is also very similar. I love the streamlining...

I'm thinking we should have a thread on the _{^{art and}} science of vehicle stability... any interest?

Chris

In 'land speed', I think you only need to look at Donald Campbell's Blue Bird approach compared to Craig Breedlove's "avoid all that" approach. One is a "car" and the other "fast".

Fossettlink

Just to see how brute power can overcome questionable aero designs

, look at the Green Monster of the Arfons.

Interest? Yes, absolutely! Time? Well, you can imagine how I am struggling for that at the moment.

Drive a Citroen D21 from the seventies and you will get an idea what I call vehicle stability. Ice, snow, rough terrain or speed combined with comfort, I'd have one if it would still be around.

The Maserati collaboration must be one of the most beautiful cars ever built. You never know, I might have one one day

Looking at it helps Eff all, just get into one and enjoy, Ky.

Cool. I knew you liked that one.. you show it before.. but this is a better pic.

Chris

Until you can find a suitable Maserati-Citreon, would you like to be the next owner of my fabulous Renault Fuego?

Well,.....no.......not really

Ed. Is that you in those shorts in #3?

Yeah....... But I was better looking then. The calendar has had it's way with me.

how 'bout Velociraptor ? or Pterasoar ?

Are you sure about green, Chris ? It could be that, like Rogers Penguin fears, you have seen too many lizards

probably true... how about a blue lizard? more my favourite color.

I don't doubt they found some orangy lizards... but I will go with the crocodile evidence. I think that earth used to be much more watery, and subsequently, all the lizards should have had 'swamp skills' and swamp coloring.

Chris

Green is cool, so long as it's BRG. I just had to google.....

Cool and Cool.

I friggin love that jag D type... and the blue lizard is almost as cool as a talking frog!

thanks

Khris ^{_{(imitation is the best form of flattery)}}

Come on, kiss it, you can do it!

5am for you... up early, or late?

thanks... I would if I could. (kiss it)

Chris

did you make that? excellent!

'course not - ^{_{stolen per usual (and cropped a bit)}}

How about Shrike

Um - not clear in Wiki is they are nasty invasive buggers that then chase every other bird out of "their territory" - not just other Shrikes, everything.

Then again it could be an advantage in traffic {so long as I'm not around with the 16G}

Not everything, food stays for dinner

The car looks like a fast intense predator.

Hi there, Great out working of the mind Chris; here's a handle: S&L-S savings and loan special and keep it sane with one of these: http://www.thecarblackbox.com/?gclid=CMTYlInRiKUCFQoEbAodiiyoPg

Great idea! Call it an Oldsmobile. Then get handout from the prez. Do you need an overpaid useless executive. I might have some time available.

more interesting developments in the field of leaning cycles.

especially, check out the video from that page.

chris

I got distracted by

this

With that size tank it would get me to the other side of the Island but possibly not back.

the frame would probably tie itself in a knot, the 1st time you cranked the throttle hard

I had a 500 years ago, it felt like it had a hinge in the middle, then when you would let off it would do a nasty headshake. I quickly learned to be either on the gas or the brakes

I can feel my calves burning already.... lol

That is just sick looking.

how about a v12?

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/features/v12_custom_kawasaki_2300cc/index.html

Ok, just put one in a CBR frame for me and I will give it a go!

Drew K

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/10/30/honda-cbx-v12-by-andreas-georgeades/

Now that's BLING

Ok, I will need at least 2 sets of tires, a full race suit, a heavier set of boots, one of those extra strong carbon fiber helmets and at least one pair of boxers per lap!

Drew

It would be an airo dramatic scenario, that's for sure