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What Is This Device?

10/30/2010 11:55 PM

I found this device while walking my dog. It was lying on the ground, red LED blinking. It's about the diameter of a dime.

It blinks only in daylight and quits at night. Seems to be some sort of uv detector.

There is a black or dark uv-colored LED on the board on the edge opposite the red LED. I presume this the sensor.

It's powered by 2 x 3V CR1220 batteries.

Anyone know what this might be; and why is it self-contained with it's own power supply?

P.S. sorry for the crummy pic, it's a function of a crappy camera.

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10/31/2010 12:33 AM

The orange thing at the bottom of the screen is blurred. Can you tell what it is?

It looks like this is a 2-side PCB. As such, it should be fairly straightforward (though painstaking) to back out a schematic of the circuit. That would reveal it's nature.

I'm sorry, but just looking at the pic, I have no clue.

I'm sure there are those here that can give you an idea.

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10/31/2010 2:36 PM

The orange thing at the bottom of the screen is blurred. Can you tell what it is?

It's a tantalum dipped capacitor.

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10/31/2010 2:37 AM

It may be part of a safety flasher for a bicycle.

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10/31/2010 3:40 AM

Part of smoke alarm?
Missing part of KrisDelTM time machine?
UPS parcel bomb component.
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11/01/2010 7:27 AM

when this would be in the package it would have done it's job.

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11/04/2010 5:41 AM

<...Missing part of KrisDelTM time machine?...>

Nope. There's nothing like it in the 2009-10 KrisDelTM catalogue. Please send an update - there's a missed opportunity somewhere....

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11/24/2010 9:24 AM

Hi

I am writing from the fulfilment deptartment at KrisDel. We have forwarded you our catalog including the yet to be created line of 2018 time machines and time machine parts.

Your catalog will arrive about two weeks ago. Please check your piles of old mail. We hope you enjoy it.

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11/24/2010 11:40 AM

the fulfilment deptartment ..

this is undoubtely a high echelon KrisDel employee

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Look, do you know how much difficulty your abuse of the machine is causing me? Last night I'm going to have to go get drunk in order to explain the brain-ache I now have.

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10/31/2010 6:08 AM

thet could be the bend laubin monitering device.

might be for dog tracking.

if it didnt destruct by now you know its not one of maxwell smarts , or 007 s wine testers.

ièd guess a dog tracking device...ie lost or runaway pets, phone-home homing device

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10/31/2010 7:25 AM

A terrorist's IUD?

Hey, you found it on the side iof the road, right? Hand it over to Homeland Security!

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11/01/2010 12:03 PM

Wise words indeed!

A pre-Homeland Security event took place at a McDonald's in my town, involving a suspicious black satchel, left in a booth. The place was evacuated and the bomb squad removed the satchel to an open field nearby. The satchel was blown up with external explosives and when the smoke and dust cleared, only a residue of makeup accessories and a red rubber nose were noted, leading investigators to conclude that it was Ronald Macdonald's, who had visited the day before.

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I don't trust clowns either.

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Yeah, I saw Ronald about a week later. he smelled terrible because he had lost his nose.

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10/06/2023 4:23 AM

We had a similar event some years ago. A suspicious package was left outside the offices of the Territorial Army (a civilian reserve army). The bomb squad arrived & blew it up, it contained leaflets advising what to do if you found a suspicious package.

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11/17/2023 12:16 PM

. Hilarious.

Not sure which channel, but there is a re-run of Danger UXB. A UK classic series that I'd forgot.

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11/01/2010 12:18 PM

I doubt if it fell out of anyones uterine. Perhaps it is an IED?

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Good one!

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11/01/2010 11:45 PM

But what about out of one of them space ships

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11/02/2010 8:10 AM

Inter Ballistic ... International Business ... what's the 'C' for? ... Oh, now I'm all confused .

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10/31/2010 12:47 PM

I have a remote to open the plants gate. The batteries are the same ones. May be insides of someones remote garage opener? Heat of daylight maybe just enough to to help the dead batteries produce a potential to light the LED.

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10/31/2010 1:30 PM

Is there any circuitry or feature (like two pads with no connection) that might suggest there was a switch contact somehow attached to the case, assuming there ever was a case?

Doesn't make sense that it blinks in the daytime.

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10/31/2010 3:23 PM

There is some residue of plastic or ceramic on the corner near the green resistor, but no obvious contacts.

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10/31/2010 8:01 PM

I wonder why the resistor you mention is so large? Does the red LED stop flashing if you mask the dark "sensor"?

Too bad you can't get some better images.

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10/31/2010 9:53 PM

Yes, the blink rate slows and the brightness dims as I cover it and goes off when in darkness and resumes in the light.

I'll see if anyone I know has a better closeup camera.

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CNTRL Z

Are you on an old DEC keyboard?

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10/31/2010 4:00 PM

It's an architrave decravinator.
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10/31/2010 6:54 PM

What ever you do dont touch it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Thanks for that! Laughing Out Loud in my hotel room! The other guests must be wondering whats up... (Am i allowed to give GA for making me laugh?)

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Follow me over to the rate button on the left. I'm givin' him a GA for an obviously good answer. I've been given good answers for Googling something, this is surely better than that.

tcmtech thanks for the chuckle.

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10/31/2010 7:34 PM

if itès the size of a dime, maybe an ear phone

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10/31/2010 11:38 PM

Its a daylight indicator. If its light out the LED blinks so you know its not dark.

Typically they are used by politicians and many managers who are both generally well known for being 'in the dark' regardless of how bright the sun is and too clueless to be able to tell if they are coming or going.

You had better return it to whom ever lost it or some government agency or corporate entity may collapse tomorrow!

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You had better return it to whom ever whoever lost it, or some government agency or corporate entity may collapse tomorrow!

And what would be so wrong with that?

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11/01/2010 8:03 AM

Mikerho.

In the sentence, "who" is in the dative case, since something is being done to or for it, and so take the dative ending, which in English is -m, so is should be "to whomever"; or better still "to whomsoever"

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I think Mikerho was right. "Whoever" is the subject in the phrase "whoever is...."

However, there might be a variation between British and American prectices.

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Sorry Tornado, I think both American and English (and all other languages I've ever learnt) would recognise "You" as the subject in the sentence:

You had better return it to whom ever lost it

The person refered to as "who/whom" is the indirect object of the verb "return" and therefore the use of the dative, i.e. whom, is correct.

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I may have to dig out the books....

I was not referring to the subject of the whole sentence, but rather to the role played by "who(m)ever" in the most local clause or phrase in which it occurs. In this case, the most local phrase is "who(m)ever lost it."

One would not say "whom lost it..."; rather it would be "who lost it...." (The "ever" is a bit of a distraction.)

"Whoever" and "whomever" are single words.

On the other hand, this would be correct: "You had better return it to whomever it belongs." (In this case "whomever" is not the subject of "whomever it belongs," so the objective case is proper.)

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You had Thou hath better return it to whom ever lost it

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11/04/2010 5:51 AM

Nononononononono!

In the earlier sentence, "you had" is not the past tense of the verb "to have". Though it is in colloquial use, such a sentence would surely bring out the examiner's red pen in an English Examination for grammatically incorrect construction, and lose marks.

Were it ever otherwise.

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What? <sound of running - fading into distance>

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Good lord! we have a -m' now?

I was always concerned that there may be negative equivalents to letters.

As far as my spelling goes what gets past the spell check is not a concern of mine. Where I come from we tend to write as we speak so if a wrong word is being used as part of our local language culture and I don't know its not part of correct American English I will use it.

Besides I am rather sure I do not have the worst writing skills or sentence structure in regards to English only speaking persons who frequent this site.

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LOL. I'll only publicly correct certain people in CR4 with whom I have an ongoing joke about spelling/grammar/typing. 34point5 picked me up on some atrocious typing today - it's just part of the fun.

The only reason I got involved on this thread was that the correction is wrong, the OP of the text is correct. Had he been wrong, I wouldn't have passed comment on him (or any correction).

Those negative letters ae a ight nuisance. If you get ome in your kyboard, it cn realy mke lfe diffcult.

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11/01/2010 10:07 PM

Just stomp it and toss it in the trash this way all of those silly who, whom ,whomsoever, what ever crap will end and the "No such agency" wont catch your ass with their soler powered Ignoramo free radical tracking whatchamahoosy thingamabob. (did I spell those technical terms correctly?)

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11/05/2010 4:19 AM

<...Just stomp it and toss it in the trash...>

Nonononononononononono! John: 11, 35.

Under the pan-European WEEE Directive, it needs to be presented to an approved recycling centre so that its components can be recovered and recycled.

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Hi tcmtech,

Don't mind me. Stuff just jumps out at me sometimes and I feel like I have to comment (and then to be technically wrong and chastened by English Rose - I am humbled).

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the tone of your posts.

Besides I am rather sure I do not have the worst writing skills or sentence structure in regards to English only speaking persons who frequent this site.

Far, far from it, my friend!

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No apologies needed I have thick skin about things like this and besides I wasn't the one who had the problem or corrective solution but I don't mind a little education on how our language should be written now and then. I just wish more people put more effort into trying to make their writings more grammatically correct as a little show of a professional respect for others.

All in all I just try to write how I speak which is ultimately based, for better or worse, on my regional dialect and local heritage influences.

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Hi English Rose,

OK, I will concede, having bowed down to accepted your analysis. Since I have read quite a lot of well written fiction prose, it just sounded awkward.

tcmtech, this is as close to an apology as you're gonna get. However, I am with you 100% on the sentiment of your post.

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how do you cross out words but still have them readable, like you did above?

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Have you got a tool bar above your edit window?

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11/01/2010 7:17 AM

It's likely a little binker that goes in some child's disposable toy (like a flashy jack o'lantern, ghost, etc) or maybe a greeting card. That it only blinks when exposed to light is probably so it'll come on when something is opened or alternatively shut off when it gets dark at night or when it's tossed in a drawer. You can find similar little boards by the cargo container full in China, etc.

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11/01/2010 7:30 AM

this is not funny, telling us what we all know but don't want to spoil the fun.

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11/01/2010 1:51 PM

That makes sense.

Nothing is as annoying as a little kid running around with his belly blinking.

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11/01/2010 7:45 AM

Usually there are numbers on the circuit board. Google them. See what comes up.

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11/01/2010 8:28 AM

Ooooo, I want one.

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11/01/2010 10:19 AM

I was just thinking you should've worn your aluminum foil cap before going near it! Maybe a face shield and insulated gloves.

Does your camera have a macro lens setting? That may enable you to get a clearer picture of it. Might give us some more to work with.

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11/01/2010 10:59 AM

"It blinks only in daylight and quits at night."

Perhaps, it was originally powered by both batteries and solar cell. Might be designed to blink both in the day and in the night to signal its existance (inturn the existance of the stuff to which it is attached).

In day light, the solar still works and the batteries could have gone, so no blinks at night:)

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11/01/2010 11:35 AM

Maybe it is robot poo! Does it smell faintly of WD40? People should clean up after their robots.

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11/01/2010 1:38 PM

I suggest it might have come from a solar powered garden light, and is used to detect when the lamp should turn on.

resistance-capacitance circuits are oscillators and would be used to blink the light. the UV detector interrupts the circuit, and enables the night light.

I suggest it needs a battery of it's own to ensure that it works for areas when off duty, or closeted. (no solar power for winter months, when garden walking is minized, many people would pull the lamp from the garden and put it in the garage.

I would suggest reading the bands on the resistor, and values from the capacitor, and battery specs, and try to figure out the power consumption. That would tell you how long the device would be able to flash for.

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11/02/2010 12:14 AM

"I would suggest reading the bands on the resistor, and values from the capacitor, and battery specs, and try to figure out the power consumption. That would tell you how long the device would be able to flash for."

Unless I keep it in a drawer out of the light the batteries die in 2-3 days. So I think it was designed for occasional exposure to light, perhaps as an alarm in a darkened room or container - a photographic darkroom comes to mind.

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11/01/2010 1:48 PM

I can't believe so many people would spend the time and energy on this as far as trying to figure it out. If you're thinking it might be useful in some future project your planning... why not design what you need as needed??

Given that it was in the news recently to not pick up "bottles" off the road due to possible explosive threats, I wouldn't get too curious about any items laying around on the ground. I'm not a worry-monger... just saying.

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11/01/2010 2:11 PM

I myself don't mind the time, and as far as "energy", my brain is using the energy from the free doughnuts someone brought in.

I agree about the bottles, not only could they be possible explosive threats, but sometimes what looks like refreshing lemonade could be something else!

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11/01/2010 2:31 PM

call the FBI. hahahahahahaahaahahahahhahaahah. joke.

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11/01/2010 2:47 PM

1) An ultrasonic light detector.

2) An ultraviolet hearing aid.

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11/01/2010 6:10 PM

it's a CR4 Commentator detector

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11/01/2010 7:37 PM

It is very similar to the control interface for a flumadalmigator valve, (referred to by Russ in another recent post) The early versions of these used only a single battery, so it may be from a more recent model.

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11/01/2010 11:39 PM

What happened with the rest of E.T.? Not even traces of the finger anymore?

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11/02/2010 9:36 AM

E.T. should have known better than to pick up one of those bottles laying around...

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11/02/2010 9:44 AM

I feel it may be is a "LED Throwie" or similar.

You can read about them here:-

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A LED throwie is a small LED attached to a coin battery and a rare earth magnet (usually with conductive epoxy or electrical tape), used for the purpose of creating non-destructive graffiti and light displays.[8] Artists use them by throwing individual LEDs onto metallic objects, like public sculpture or road infrastructure. By throwing LEDs onto an object, the object itself acts as a canvas. LED Throwies were devised by James Powderly and Evan Roth working together at the Graffiti Research Lab during a fellowship at Eyebeam OpenLab in 2006[citation needed].

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11/02/2010 10:16 AM

It looks like it's part of a Flux capacitor circuit out of a time machine or an alien communication device.

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11/02/2010 11:26 AM

If it suddenly starts to emit the sounds: "Calling Dr Fine, Dr. Howard"......

Shoot it until it says " Oh!...You got me".

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11/02/2010 12:49 PM

I am no electronics expert and have no idea what it could be, but it looks kinda old. Like '80s or so, because don't most modern electronics use chip resistors instead of those huge power consuming monstrosities? I recall seeing boxes of those when I was in a 5th grade electronics class. What kind of electronic device like this would have been used back then?

Perhaps looking at it's age and shape will help those with more knowledge than I to uncover the purpose of this diabolical device.

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11/02/2010 3:13 PM

Here is a diagram for the "simplest LED flasher":

The operation is based on negative differential resistance using a transistor as a "negistor". The unknown device looks like it could be this except for the mysterious sensor (transistor?). I wish I knew more, but I only just barely finished flashlight and doorbell school.

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11/02/2010 3:49 PM

I maintain still that my post #56 is the real answer.

Did anyone go to the web page I listed and read the description? It fits the device to a "T", except this one seems to have lost its magnet......which may explain why it was apparently thrown away....

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11/02/2010 4:07 PM

Is that the same thing shown in the Step Up 3D movie. In that case, what would be the purpose of turning off the lights when it is dark? the logic doesn't match, imho.

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11/02/2010 4:34 PM

I think the components and LEDs used are too old for that purpose. Modern LED lights are much smaller and use modern chip resistors. The black bulb looks like I.R. receivers I have seen on dismantled (destroyed) VCRs I found (destroyed) as a kid.

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11/02/2010 4:40 PM

It is a battery discharger.

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11/02/2010 5:34 PM

Looks like the PCB (given through hole mtg components and no sign of tracks on the component side) is prob'ly single-sided (with no internal layers).

Can you work out what is connected to what (even if you don't know which way round the components are) and sketch out a circuit, please?

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11/02/2010 8:01 PM

1.The batteries seem to be in series, giving six volts. Usually an led only needs three volts. The item seems too thick for a greeting card musical or recording device, I think they have them worked out to be thin. They activate when the card is opened.

I just don't know of any items that blink during the day, and are off at night, but I suspect that it is from a toy.

2. The 'whom' thing is a phrase, the object of the preposition 'to'. I suspect it should be 'who', because that is the subject of the phrase. who, whoever, whatever.

Used to love this kind of stuff in school, but it's been a long time. We need an English teacher to chime in and give us a professional opinion.

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11/04/2010 5:56 AM

So it's got nothing to do with breaking up cast iron baths, then? What a shame!

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11/04/2010 6:11 AM

quelle damage.
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11/04/2010 9:13 AM

Well I'm up for a bit of damage <prepares to hide and look for ther chocolate covered lady thread in mitigation>o

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11/04/2010 5:44 PM

Only way to quell the damage here is a cold shower.

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11/05/2010 4:11 AM

Here's hoping the shower didn't go the same way as the dreaded cast iron bath, then.....

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11/04/2010 5:55 PM

are you saying quelle domage?

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11/04/2010 6:22 PM

Quel dommage! (Pardonnez mon français.)

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11/04/2010 6:26 PM

yes, that is what I meant. but there is also this. and I dunno, he could have meant a pun or something... swoosh; over my head. it happens all the time.

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11/05/2010 2:59 AM

Quel fromage?

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11/05/2010 4:13 AM

That answer is far too cheesey.

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11/05/2010 4:32 AM

Grate answer, over a litte pasta maybe?

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11/05/2010 2:47 PM

If it's not too intimate a restaurant, can we all come ?

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I thought you liked intimate? or is that just with your mouse.

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Are you trying to intimate something ?

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11/05/2010 3:09 PM

Ooooh, a whole thread with no squirrel then two come along at once.
Ok it's the same one twice...jeez is arguing with yourself normal?
I'd say it's a sign of insanity...
Yeah, you would, but it's fine by me.
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11/05/2010 6:23 PM

That's done it, I'm gonna hold me coat mesen

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11/05/2010 3:47 PM

and where is Etherville anyway? I can't find it on a map. If you can't be found, then how will you get to a restaurant? Now I'm thinking I know why you wanted to know where the average cr4 member was.. to help figure out where you live?

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"The average CR4 member" was once a member of the "CB club" and occupied a booth at the local McDonald's, nursing one cup of coffee for 3 hrs, and then ventured out as a convoy of those little pick-ups, looking for aluminum cans.

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11/05/2010 5:28 PM

It's between Edam Court and Bristols

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11/05/2010 5:44 PM

I do spend a lot of time Reading in (the) Bath... thinking about Maidenhead or Old Sod... lol

I still can't find it. is this Etherville? (I found it between Edam Court and Bristols)

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Seems You Solved It !!!

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