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Our (CR4 members) Responses Are Often Brutal - Please Be Kind

12/12/2010 3:11 AM

It is sometime since I have wanted to open a discussion on this topic. It seems to me that we (the CR4 community) often treat people who post on this site with disdain. I am particularly thinking of those questions which are either simply googleable (e.g. how does a screw work) or just plain stupid (e.g. where can I get plans for my house).

The replies from our eminent members are often sarcastic, high-handed and to some extent downright bullying.

If you think the question doesn't merit a response or you think that you cannot bring anything to the subject then simply don't answer ; move on to a subject that you do like.

When I joined CR4 some years ago, it seemed to me that the quality of question was better and I am wondering if our responses have not dissuaded people from posing interesting questions on this site? Having looked at some other engineering forums, it seems that they attract good quality questions.

My plea is that we tone down our answers and that if we don't have anything useful to say that we refrain from saying anything.

The dissuasion to bad questions is simply that nobody answers them. If we ignore them then they do actually go away.

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Re: Our (CR4 members) responses are often brutal - Please be kind

12/12/2010 3:59 AM

Are you sure that interesting and valid questions receive discouraging treatment? Conversely, are you sure that discouraging treatment isn't deserved?

I can't speak for everyone, but I have sometimes given patient and expository answers even to quite naive questions, if it appeared that the questions were sincere. I am not so patient with pure laziness, misinformation, and such. And, like some others, I am total death on over-unity scams and other such nonsense, for which I offer no apology.

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12/13/2010 10:45 AM

Hi Tornado,

After my observations any question can receive discouraging treatment? Opinions, education, attitude, knowledge, experience... are different from one individual to another. This reflects differences in comments by itself.

What's deserved is another problem!

For example, when someone claims that money is not important part of "something", and change opinion after a few comments that she/he has monetary problem with the "something". The money suggesting person initially get off topic note about it, and good answer was allocated to the comments that money has nothing to do with the "subject" and/or "something". However, lather, the money became extremely important and the good and bad answers were distributed the same ways than before.

First, I would like to understand the process of allocating good or off topic notes? Second, by defending the money as a major part of the success concerning the "subject" or making the "something" I get corrective remarks on my English, being inconsistant and jumping from here to there. The another person, the changing person never get any suggestion for her/his English (without any critics, being not better than mine), her/his sentences, and the real meaning of those words. Again, what's good and bad for an answer is decided by someone who has the difficulties to read I think at least English or they, CR4 favorize certain people they know or not?

CR4 cannot accept divergent opinions that doesn't fit to them and everything is said in correct English without insulting anyone!

For further informations, read "Innovation 101". It's an interesting question with good and bad answers but became with personal attacks and impolite/rude words.

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12/13/2010 10:56 AM

Gil,

If that is your real name, congratulations!

You are, without a doubt, the most talented poster I have ever encountered here. You must have honed these skills for years to produce such masterpieces. Norm Crosby would be jealous of your talents.

You are second to none in your ability to put strings of words together that resemble sentences, yet are totally unintelligible.

Gil, You da man.

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12/13/2010 11:02 AM

Who is Norm Crosby?

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12/13/2010 11:21 AM

A nobody who no doubt appears on Google....

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12/13/2010 11:36 AM

I no longer use Google, unless I am really desperate. One usually has to wade through about 3 to 10 pages of garbage before finding any really pertinent information. I prefer Dogpile for general searches, with a list of an additional 25 specialized search engines for various searches. Google is actually #15 on the list...Even with Dogpile, I get a full page of ads trying to sell me Norm Crosby CD's, with very little information (not even a photo) available on Wikipedia. But I did figure out who he is- he's the guy from Ed Sullivan who drinks decapitated coffee while speaking from his diagram...

Actually, the question was intended more as rhetorical- Google isn't always the answer.

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12/13/2010 11:27 AM

Funny guy.

From Wiki: Crosby went solo as a stand-up comedian, adopting a friendly, blue collar, guy-next-door attitude in the 1950s. Norm Crosby refined his stand-up monologues by interpolating malapropisms.

How 'bout that one, Gil?

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12/16/2010 4:55 PM

Normy boy was never really very funny, just a tag-along wannabe leftover from the rat pack days. However as to being compared to his compatriots in today's world of sarcastic, foul mouthed stand downs, I suppose that he may have had ideas and an opinionated voice to share - at least he had some wit to accompany his performing style.

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12/13/2010 11:24 AM

Again; Political correctness.

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12/13/2010 12:38 PM

How did you figure out that from that?

No seriously; how?

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12/12/2010 4:49 AM

Part of the problem is that one persons sense of humour does not always match another's. Many people visit CR4 (often with a one-off question) and expect a very staid and serious response. A bit of banter and fun is very much what makes CR4 the community it is.

Yes, people do get butchered, though not usually in quite the way you seem to suggest. Any person living in the real world has to develop a thick skin, and CR4 even affords us the 'Off Topic' button to contain things a little.

The most common cause for butchery are questions that lack detail (which could enable a sensible reply), or questions that are deliberately posed for a giggle. Occasionally (it doesn't happen a lot), a questioner might be misconstrued for an idiot because English is not their first language. Anyone posting a question that is clearly outside the realms of CR4 (religion, politics etc) is all but asking for a hard time.

By and large, 'bad' (if there is such a thing) questions are ignored, deleted by Admin, or have a short lifespan as people lose interest in them.

Nobody would consider themselves 'eminent' in the usual sense, certainly not carrying greater knowledge or gravitas. It's simply a fact that CR4 has many regular members who get to know each other to an extent and engage in (what may seem to newcomers) frivolous banter.

If the whole issue is something you feel strongly about, it might be easier to get the message out by simply using an appropriate quote line or signature.

Discussions on discussions don't really need any more discussing (I'll discuss this with myself later) - it's all covered by CR4 posting Guidelines and the FAQ's.

Allow me to help the unfortunates a little;

http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4600493_a-screw-work.html

http://architecture.about.com/cs/repairremodel/a/findoldplans.htm

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12/12/2010 6:57 AM

It's sanctimonious ****'s like you who ruin my weekend. Perfectly reasonable question was asked, and you spout off like the London Olympics has started. Why don't you just sit down, shut up, and ponder why we don't use all combinations of GCAT. I've neither the time or inclination to set your right - Newton and Ridley church is open in 5 minutes.

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12/13/2010 8:38 PM

perhaps a statistical study of thread 'lifetimes' or halflife is in order.... Know anyone who can do that?

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12/15/2010 5:33 AM

. I commend JohnDG for the job, he's very good at that kind of thing .

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12/15/2010 10:19 AM

Had I but world enough, and time ___

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12/15/2010 7:56 PM

Oooph, you old romantic, you !

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12/15/2010 11:11 AM

Chris-

I did a summary of the Container Housing blog- which consisted of downloading the entire thread, then weeding out the innocuous (in my opinion) and the repetitions. The final file was about 10% of the original. That was an especially rich blog- I suspect a similar analysis of a broader spectrum would result in a much lower "efficiency" score. But, I should also say, the original was much more fun than the reduced version...

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12/16/2010 3:48 PM

Chris; does B. B. T. even come close to the Guinness World records of the most entertained and extended topic of discussion, in all of it's forms, so far in the recent Internet's history? And how do we find out - look up the GWR's database and browse? Or more to the point - put the point to them.

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12/16/2010 4:56 PM

The last time I posted the results of that search, I got moderated

A couple of the results dealing with topics banned on this site

the winners were in the 100's of thousands

We of BotB[Breakers of the Bath] are closing in on 22'000

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12/16/2010 5:33 PM

Why were some of the results banned on this site?

Why were you moderated?

Inquiring and increasingly paranoid minds need to know, after all this forum isn't the National Inquirer, or the Daily Star or heaven forbid - the dreaded TMZ. (we pray)

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Our responses are often kind

12/16/2010 6:07 PM

The official charge was linking to a site that dealt with sexual matters [legal]. The thread I had linked too was a word game & I see I exaggerated only 95k posts

mind you I [among other members] had been poking admin with a sharp stick to see how the new moderation crew was going to interpret the suggestions that pass for rules

There are some other good ones

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12/16/2010 6:21 PM

Please tell me that his didn't co-incidently happen together with the recent introduction of the new 'Barbie' doll with a camera built into her chest area, with a uploadable d-com port and an lcd viewport built onto her back.

This news was put forward in the last couple of days c/w the warning of; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1335649/FBI-issues-warning-Barbie-Video-Girl-used-paedophiles-make-child-pornography.html.

This new tech is really starting to get too much to stomach for an old electrician, like myself.

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12/16/2010 6:43 PM

I don't get it.

Admittedly I don't know anything about what pedophiles get off on, or how whoever thought this 'threat' up, thought it might work, but WHY would you publish an article saying there is no link?

Haven't the idiot jurno's just gone "hey all you pedo's - look! a new idea!"

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12/16/2010 7:04 PM

Exactly!!! - Jon Stewart's Daily Show had just that same spoof (expose') on the same topic last night! December 15, 2010 where I first viewed it! - That is the only reason I replied to Garthh.

I find the whole idea sickening myself, and when enough parents, teachers and socially reponsible legislators boycott and threaten the Mattell Corp. with harsh legal actions for such an irresponsible corporate decision action, will the madness stop.

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12/16/2010 7:19 PM

GOOD!!!!!! Stupid Journalism deserves to be mocked mercilessly and often.

And equally I wonder if undermining "Toy of the year" isn't a deliberate byproduct.

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12/17/2010 8:39 AM

' a uploadable d-com port and an lcd viewport built onto her back.'

Engineers these days have no imagination...

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12/16/2010 6:36 PM

Header Title Alert again! Re; "Our responses are often kind" - What the flunking floozies happened to "Our Responses Are Often Brutal - Please Be Kind"?

I appreciate the compliment, but it has nothing to do with the OP's posting of topic - Loupy.

P.S. - And kind of what exactly?

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12/16/2010 7:37 PM

I think I have shown great restraint, waiting until part way through the 3rd page before the title got changed

The OP hasn't been seen for quite some time

Lets be serious the original post was a statement more than a question or discussion...

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12/16/2010 10:27 PM

Garthh, once again, another topic title header page change about - whom is pulling the strings, and playing the Joker cards? I don't want to think that it could possibly be Admin., but who really knows for sure, these days?

After all, it's only a publicly accessed website. - Loupy.

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String pulling by Schrödinger's cat

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It's really no big deal.

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12/16/2010 11:31 PM

Meeowww. Where am I? How the heck do I get the F out of here, and get back to my string ball?

Is there anyone watching me struggle out of this box?

Oh, thank goodness, I hear Herr Scrhodinger's reassuring voice in the background.

Surely, he will have the right and proper sensibilities to allow a living being like meeeoowwself to escape this dark solitude and live out the remaining lives that I have left.

No, wait! He has placed a camera, and a clocking calender and several other recording devices about and around my dark and silent compounds.

Wait a F'ng second, what the F does he expect to F'ng happen in this scenario - is he just a plain sadistic F'ng iidiot?

Yeah. I suppose that, upon all the scientific evidence proposed to my observations, so far that he is most definitley, without a doubt, certifiably, a quite maniacal sadistic pervert.

I'm getting quite sleepy now, what with no food or water, or any kind of stimulation like light or anything.

So after all this ends for me, hopefully into a blissful explosion of enlightment, with a boatfull of fresh tuna, string balls by the pawfull, and a friendly stroke or two, starting down from my head, along my spine, and ending in a glorious raising of my tail to return your love and affection. It is all I can offer in return.

My only hope that someone, anyone, is around to see me take my last breath.

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12/17/2010 12:08 AM

Cry me a river - so sad, but true. No tears wasted - but carefully placed in a petrie dish for later analysis for alkaline content as well as all of the other critical complex compounds such as aluminum dioxide disulphates etc.

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12/17/2010 1:49 AM

Garthh - you are very good at what you are able to get away with - keep up the good work.

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12/17/2010 8:38 AM

No real answer to that one...OBO (our beloved overlords) kept telling us to read the rules. There was no answers to be found there, it is all vague, and none of the rules had been broken or even bent a little.

So it remains a mystery...

But we broke a few of the moderator's wee tiny minds at the BBT, and they started leaving us to our own devices.

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12/17/2010 8:33 AM

You could google "vast iron bath tub" or "Splarf", I suppose...But in the interest of science, here is the link:

http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/13355

Be forewarned, you must read it through from the beginning!

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Re: Our (CR4 members) responses are often brutal - Please be kind

12/12/2010 5:08 AM

Interesting.

My 'weakness' is BS journalism, otherwise I generally sit back and see if it's answered.

But I have said as much about 'certain knee-jerk statements' having a deleterious effect in setting the 'tone' of a thread, so style of responses.

However, I don't know how it could be 'improved' when "first answers" tend to be the least considered - in order to be "first" (though understandably, in this case, the usual suspects telling you you're an idiot, illiterate or incompetent and need a professional, are noticeably "no shows")

Perhaps can 'challenges", which are kinda about "first" - but then where is the fun part?

Maybe don't send the Daily Digest, on the issue day, to "embarrassing members"? But how does that solve "obnoxious Guest"?

Or maybe you, like so many others, are a victim of "post to GA ratio" in deciding "eminent" ref members?

It's what they type that has value, or not.

Their 'score' means SFA as fools will always applaud fools to gain a return.

Smart people generally only reward a 'smarter answer'.

Mean while perhaps get to know who is who, rather than reacting to what is posted first.

And none of the above "rush in arse hole" applies to the 'two posters' above.

They have yet to show up.

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12/12/2010 5:32 AM

<wheeze> - <puff> - Here I am! Sorry to keep you waiting, chaps - it was uphill all the way! .

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12/12/2010 6:00 AM

Poor JD

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12/12/2010 6:49 AM

Well, you've got a reasonable excuse for having a nice quiet weekend. Westkits are a bloody pain when trying to do a passable disco dance after a few pints (of well earned) beer .

btw, found a key fob in my underpants the other day.....I've no idea how

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12/12/2010 7:24 AM

It's funny that your thread is about brutal responses, and then in your opening sentences refer to the house plan question as just plain stupid. That thread appeared just a few days ago, and I don't recall anyone calling it just plain stupid. Do you think he's reading this thread?

Some of these threads are posted over and over again, or reposted slightly differently every couple of days. I'm quite sure these threads are not being posted by very young children, so yes, sometimes sarcastic remarks are warranted. Ignoring them doesn't work, they will just rephrase and repost day after day.

Most of us here have slipped up and posted something that would be considered stupid, or just plain wrong, and missed the deadline. The result is, we have to sit back and take the brutal and sarcastic comments from other members.

On CR4, just like out in the real world, people can't expect to go around making dumb comments and asking dumb questions without eventually being ridiculed by someone.

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12/12/2010 10:11 AM

Omw7 has a very good point; just look at the average at-a-boy GA's thus far.

Omw7 1 every 16.6 answer/questions

Tornado every 26.6 answer/questions

Kris every 193.5 answer/questions

34point5 every 57.7 answer/questions

JohnDG every 36.6 answer/questions

Kramarat every 26.0 answer/questions

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I don't think he got them with criticism

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12/12/2010 10:18 AM

At-a-boy dk, GA.

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12/12/2010 11:47 AM

I don't think so. Totally irrelevant to the original question/oratory/admonition.

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12/12/2010 12:07 PM

lynlynch 1every 28.5 answer/questions

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12/12/2010 12:56 PM

Welcome aboard dk.

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12/17/2010 7:40 PM

I got a GA using statistics that was stripped away from me because it went to my head.

I'm embarrassed.

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12/18/2010 3:18 AM

I got a GA at #2 or something that also got eroded. Any additions to the subtraction and I'll be pleased to the point of nocturnal emissions. To think somebody cared to the point of voting.....Love is never having to say you're taking time to cast a vote .

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12/18/2010 4:22 AM

No it's not the 'full CR4 experience' until you have some prat, who is simply pissed off with you proving right, go through your 'recent good answers' and un-vote them all.

My PB is 28 undone GA's in one 'umbrage session', though it's usually more like 2 a week.

So: Why don't GA's matter to me?

1. Because "who got the GA" does seriously matter to people who aren't right most of the time, and can't admit that. E.g. will not undo their 'GA ' to wrong answer, or 'OT' to a proven right answer.

2. Because the same people "climb out of their self dug hole" by "GA-ing" the first plagiariser of 'correct facts', to try to "save face".

3. Because the same "un voters" are, demonstrably by #1 & 2: Habitually ignorant misogynistic Neanderthal science and engineering vacuous blusterers, lacking totally in any redeeming features of 'humor', 'self awareness', 'poise', 'manners', 'decorum', 'aesthetics', conviviality, or in a word - 'class'.

4. so given that's what is 'un-voting' you, who cares? - "Less is Better"!

6. Just checked; I'm back up to 49 - so let's see how the above is 'received'

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12/18/2010 11:11 AM

Thank you for the insight 34.5 I had no idea this kind of behavior goes on here.

I feel much better about myself now. I will adopt your doctrine and move forward.

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You can't be serious!

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12/18/2010 1:58 PM

Well put! But no GA from me being I don't hand out frivolous prizes.

To add to the real CR4 experience you also need to have the occasional PM's from some half wit chewing your ass over something that was either correct or had absolutely nothing to do with the topic or any subject of a thread.

Nothing stokes my ego quit like having the village idiot jump me over letting him show off his own stupidity!

And for the guest or guests who keep whining about getting reinstated here, Just make up a new name and rejoin if its that big of deal to you. In fact pick out several new names and then use them to go around giving yourself GA's for every post you make!

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12/19/2010 5:36 AM

Brilliant ! I'd almost GA that, but will just notch you up on my coffee mug . Both funny and well said. Is there a lick-ass badge we can earn? If only I could "Like" your posts ! Gawd bless Mr Zuckerberg

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12/19/2010 10:44 AM

My PB is 28 undone GA's in one 'umbrage session'

This is really impressive! I think my best has been about 15 or so.

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12/19/2010 11:35 AM

Wow,

Just came from another thread where you have 34point5 (1450) posts in a single thread.

That must be some kind of dubious record.

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12/19/2010 11:47 AM

I have a feeling He's just getting warmed up....

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Don't forget about the current champion Sue

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12/12/2010 3:37 PM

I'm not very good at maths. Could you work it out for me while your at it?

If one can't handle the heat get out of the bloody kitchen. The real world shows no mercy and that's the way the cookie crumbles.

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I'm not sure whether to feel complimented or insulted - could you elaborate(if you can take a second from beating the wife and sipping from the ol' still) ? Am presently considering giving you a GA in eager anticipation - masturbation is an admirable sport, and one I'm eager to compete in no matter how little chance I have of winning. Might just be yanking your chain

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I just love when I'm triggered to give this reply picture.

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Doh !!!! Hook, line, and sinkered !

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'Brain Fairy' - Sure it wasn't Brian Ferry"

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12/16/2010 9:09 AM

Why are his ribs on his right side in the abdominal area? Someone has to learn realistic photo shopping....

I agree that the US has completely gone overboard with P.C. B.S., and I for one enjoy a forum where P.C. is not the norm. I think people who post as experts, yet do no fact checking first, then fight to the death anyone who dares to challenge their hypotheses, deserve what they get. I can name a number of people on this forum who do this on a regular basis. We all know which are the rabid dogs, and which can take a elbow to the ribs in good humor.

I say, if you can't take it, find a nice site elsewhere that will pander to your gentle sensibilities.

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12/16/2010 10:00 AM

"...if you can't take it, find a nice site elsewhere that will pander to your gentle sensibilities..."

Where, or where, gentle sage, is this mythical site that will "pander to [my] gentle sensibilities"?

No, better not link me there- I may get stuck and never return...But, then again, maybe there are those about who would prefer I never return...

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I'll never tell...but we miss ya CWarner! We're keeping your padded cell room ready for your return...

Don't make us send the hounds after you...

I'm just sayin'....

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No! No! Not the bath!

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Maybe if enticed by a whole water melon punch?

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Not very often you're seen out of the Bath .

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I picked the lock...

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The definition of a true competitor? Someone who comes first and third in a JO'ff contest - I first heard this joke at age 8, and had no idea what the joke was about, but everyone else was laughing.

P.S. I must have been considered 'slow' at that time, and maybe even considered 'slow' even today!

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12/15/2010 11:45 AM

I am admittedly a Moron, but have a "good" ratio. I'm often quite patient with difficult-to-comprehend questions. Occasionally I'm not so patient. I am particularly irked by CR4 members who know little but try to act as if they know a lot more than a better-informed question poser.

(In one thread, a relatively new member asked about the efficiency of a PM DC motor used as a generator. One of our members, who knew almost nothing about how these machines actually worked as generators, wrote:

If you do not realise that a motor and a generator are each specifically designed for a particular job, then we may not be able to help you much......

Ask yourself, if they were the same, why would we have both????)

In this case, the older CR4 member was simultaneously technically wrong and insulting, and implying that the question poser would be incapable of understanding the "right" answer.

Overall, however, this sort of problem is pretty rare, and many of the slightly sarcastic comments that some members often provide can be funny without being insulting.

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12/15/2010 1:14 PM

Aw come on. I was having a bad day.

I was making a feeble attempt to get some feedback from the new member if they new how a permanent magnet DC motor worked. Beside this, we all know that you can only make a "best guess" value for any machine's efficiency. Efficiency is really a measured not an extrapolated value.

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You are not, by any stretch, the offender I had in mind. The person to whom I referred claimed all sorts of novel things about PM DC motors (such as their having a need for interpoles, that they are basically inefficient as generators, that they needed to be rewired to be efficient, etc.), none of which was applicable to the OP's motor, and little of which is applicable to PM DC motors in general.

Your posts are pretty consistently good, I think. (Whereas the member I had in mind is strong on opinion and weak on facts... and tends to be abrasive little twit, as well. . Not a great combination.)

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I thank you for the compliment.

By claiming to be the offender I seized the opportunity to show that sometimes a harsh remark may have a realistic goal in mind instead of just insulting a person.

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Were I to comment that you should be careful that halo doesn't slip down and choke you - would it be sophomoric?

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I've already been choked for far less.

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No, this is sophomoric.

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12/12/2010 12:33 PM

I can certainly understand the desire and respect the effort to reduce many of the flames that have happened here.

We are all humans here. The OP's here have just as much a right to ask dumb questions as those who answer them to show the folly of the question. Rarely does simple abusive language help though. Sometimes what a responder intends to be a gentle barb to drag more information out of the OP appears to others as an insult. You are forgetting the law of large numbers that rules the web. Not responding with a presumed gentle barb will make it more likely that the initial reply to a dumb question will come from somebody having a bad day.

We are all humans here. We all have bad days. Venting on a dumb question posted here maybe in the larger picture the better option to real problems. Keep this in mind when you see a responders reply containing more vitriol than usual.

Now I've noticed recently that early in a thread, a simple polite request for more information gets as much of a response from the OP as asking an infant the implications of quantum dynamics. Instead I've been trying recently the gentle barb approach. While in one notable recent case the OP flew into a tirade but others did not abuse the OP for the sloppiness of the original question.

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What is the difference between quatium mechanics and automotive mechanics?

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Some automotive mechanics can spell quantum.

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Damn, by 1 minute (probably 1 second)

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"However, I don't know how it could be 'improved' when "first answers" tend to be the least considered - in order to be "first" (though understandably, in this case, the usual suspects telling you you're an idiot, illiterate or incompetent and need a professional, are noticeably "no shows")"

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Heheheeeeeeeee

I bet you weren't "desperate to be first" then either.

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No. The automotive mechnik hs 2 open th dor.

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You make a great straight man. Did you know Norm Crosby?

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Lynlynch,

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12/14/2010 10:45 PM

quoting Redfred:"There are 10 types of people. People who understand binary and those who don't." ........ I ran into an interesting fellow at BevMo today hunting, like myself, for his favorite beer. The gal at the register carded him (he was 52) and remarked that his birthday this year was Binary day, 10/10/10.

I was next in line. She didn't card me. This was troubling; no, almost crushing. I've recently cherished the belief that I looked younger than my 72 years. At least I found my beer .......Ed Weldon

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12/14/2010 8:25 PM

splarf!

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12/13/2010 12:41 PM

One is spelt correctly?

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12/14/2010 7:27 PM

At the end of the day, automotive mechanics do not get paid for theories.

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12/14/2010 9:33 PM

Okay, GA. Quick, sharp - incisive ... I'll leave it to others whether OT should be the "PC per CR4" standard vote. (cue prolonged Laughtrack).

Any chance we (future "lurkers" included) could get your take on the OP's position? I'd love to hear it. Well, read it.

Gene

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12/15/2010 8:49 AM

No but we pay the dealership for their hypotheses. Please excuse mi speling. I'm fro America.

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12/12/2010 2:12 PM

I've given GA's to those who dump hard on those lazy homework posters. Go for it! Anything that contributes to driving zero effort homework questions off the site gets my thumbs up.

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12/12/2010 5:25 PM

Do you undo it when it turns out not to be 'homework'?

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12/14/2010 9:44 PM

GA!

I've seen it happen at least a few times (once, to me, would be more than too many)in my research of the "archives" and I've seen very few "mea culpa's" ensue.

Good catch, too.

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12/12/2010 2:58 PM

This rant is just as sanctimonious as the lot of them that propose to dictate what is said here. It is unclear to me why you, omw7, and you, 34point5, have decided that you should pass judgement on the tone of posts here on a site on which you are just guests, as are all the rest of us. As to "first answers" and Ga's, I'm at a loss to understand what that has to do with civility. If that is really what the subject of the OP is.

If you feel that someone has suffered a specific injury from something that has been presented here, report it to admin.

There, I've done it again. I'm in direct conflict with omw7's admonition that, "If you think the question doesn't merit a response" then simply don't answer.

I shouldn't have answered, I guess.

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12/12/2010 5:49 PM

And me?

"civility" Ha!

Nar - it's all about comprehension.

It's a two way street for me;

If they do understand and spit the dummy; I get "the naughty step"

If they don't understand and spit the dummy; I get "the naughty step"

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