No More Toasted Bread For You!

Put your hands in the air and step away from my toast.
Not another food scare....
You could be jepardising the whole KrisDel^TM Rasterscan Solar Toaster development program...and threatening the livelihood of millions of people a cat and a squirrel.

Now look what you've done...I'm craving toast now...I shall counter the craving by saying 'Custard Tart'.
Del

I would not have written this blog if I had known that people would take what I had written, point the finger at me, and call me a liar. I merely presented information to you from the links. However, I do recognize that some of the links may contradict each other (as you pointed out between the Wikipedia statement versus the WHO statement). In the end, I went with the World Health Organization, because they are a more trusted source than Wikipedia (of which can be edited by anyone). That is why I chose to project that exposure through the air and physical contact with skin is relatively harmless. Although, WHO does point out that the evidence for this is 'often difficult to obtain.' The Wikipedia statement does directly have resources to the FDA and WHO, but I would rather go to WHO's website than a third party website (Wikipedia) that can misinterpret writing.

>>>>'...Boiling, steaming, and microwaving do not form acrylamide in foods.....'<<<< This statement is in direct contradiction to the links provided in the blog, and certainly detrimental to anyone attempting to reduce acrylamide in their diet.

This is a direct statement from my source: http://www.fooducate.com/blog/2010/01/05/11-short-acrylamide-facts-french-fries-foe/ I see you looked at the Wikipedia link which then pointed to the FDA survey data. There were two mentions of microwaving foods. One did not produce acrylamide and one did produce acrylamide. This is conflicting information, although I note that it is possible that microwaving can cause acrylamide in some foods.

The blog also completely neglects to mention some very significant sources of acrylamide.

Tell me, what do you expect me to do in 300 words? I tried my best to write up an article that is linked to many sources (my facts do have ties to the links, even if they are hard to find - I would not have written half the things I did if I had not seen them first). I do not have the time to write everything there is to know about acrylamide, this blog entry was just a brief overview of acrylamide. If readers want to know more, they can do that on their own time.

Wasting no time, the inaccuracies begin before getting out of the second sentence..... it is hardly fair to label acrylamide on toast 'synthetic';

I see that my sentence is misunderstood. I was defining acrylamide as a synthetic chemical that is potentially dangerous and not specifically to acrylamide found on toast. I can see as to why the English language may have been particularly confusing in this case.

The label 'potentially dangerous' while factually correct, does nothing to improve understanding as anything can be described as potentially dangerous.

It was the introductory sentence; are you not familiar with the introduction part of a written piece? It is where you introduce what you will be talking about. I had a whole paragraph dedicated to the danger aspect to acrylamide in the "How Dangerous is Acrylamide?" part of the blog.

You point to inaccuracies that are merely misunderstandings, with the exception of the microwave aspect to forming acrylamide which is presented in conflicting ways in my links. I did ample amounts of research into this and I provided links to my research. As with all things, there are two sides to every story. If I could have done more, I would have. I have other obligations, just like every other CR4-er and blogger on this website. Calling my blog fluff and accusing it of very little substance is looking down at the research that I did do (which I stand by as sufficient). I cannot do everything, I am not magical, I can only do my best.

Just to reiterate something that readers of blogs may not understand. I am not an endorser of acrylamide, nor am I against it. I am presenting information that I gather from other resources because I do not have a lab and cannot possibly test these things out for myself. This goes for any other blogger on this site that reports about something and you waggle your finger at them because they are advocating this, that, and the other thing. They aren't, they are just reporting their research. Taking what someone has written and calling them a liar and using scare tactics and writing worthless things is completely unnecessary and an unfair reflection of what a person has written, especially when they have resources to back them up. Realize that for every story someone presents, there will be another contradicting story. That is what the comments are for, not for tearing a blog apart when they have links and resources to back up their points.

You're right about one thing, Benbenben. Many of your comments have been erased - and they will continue to be erased. Unfortunately, you were banned from this site some time ago.

I will send you an email so that we can discuss this, Benbenben. In the meantime, please stop posting the same threads repeatedly. Basically, you're spamming the site.

As far as I know the general effort of being alive tends to eventually result in everyones death as well.

Why dont we just start posting a health warning label on babies so that everyone knows that being alive will eventually cause their death?

I am going to die and so is every one else. So how about we enjoy what we can of it while we can instead of fearing everything about being alive until the day we do die?

WTF?

I just want to point out that if you read and follow all of my blog entries, you would never eat fries, toast, green potatoes, orange juice, or raw cookie dough. You would never go outside during a storm, never spank your children, never stretch before a marathon, never wear flip-flops, and never go outside without sunglasses. Your main diet may contain a sampling of popcorn, sesame seeds, and tofu.

I am just presenting data, what you choose to do with that information is your choice. I never said to fear toast and fries. I aim to make people AWARE, not afraid (I had toast just the other morning without fearing for my life).

They said that about grilling your burgers too. Fortunately I like my burgers rare. oh, oh.

it used to be that one died of old age......yeah those were the days.......

I swear these food related health scares are designed to make life seem longer and tortuous. But the most accurate was the great Redd Foxx.

Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing. Redd Foxx
US comedian (1922 - 1991)

_{No offence meant Jaxy.}

Oh my Gosh...here we go.... I find it amazing how they tell you that eating food that we have been eating for the past 100 years is bad for you...and then in the same breath.. try to convince you that pumping chemicals every year into your body to protect you from a common cold is good for you....

Just pick up a toothpaste tube and google all the ingredients and see how healthy brushing your teeth is.... lol...try that for just about any product sold.... even the so called health drinks.

The worst thing you can do for your health is worry, and, that includes worrying about what you eat.

Cheer up everybody. My research shows a good layer of butter neutralises the acrylamide. Over-acrylamidized (burnt) toast gets fed to the ducks in the park, and so far they seem to be ok too

Toast? Coffee? Is nothing sacred anymore?

Oh gawd not another bit about how cooking food makes it carcinogenic. Thirty years ago it was hamburgers. Now toast? Gimme a break. Millions and millions eat both and they aren't exactly dropping like flies, are they?

The worst part of this drivel is that some fool of a PhD probably got a bucket of tax dollars to do the "research."

You know, we all die some time and you've got a better chance of being killed in traffic. How about concentrating on stuff that matters?

Lets just think for a moment...a 350lb fat guy and a 168lb toast eater, if I were a betting man....

OMG!!!!! See what happens when those fool mortals steal fire from the Gods.

Like Del, your blog immediately made me crave toast! Since I have no "custard tart" I had to stop writing this post and make toast immediately.

It is okay to know about the scientific findings on "acrylamide", but where are the studies on toast? Do toast eaters have a significant risk of cancer cw non-toasters. That study hasn't been done. I also wonder to what extent this is a fast-food-phenom as another poster suggested.

There really is a surprising amount of study on foods that are "bad" because of the way they're cooked. Barbecue, for example. The delicious burnt meat taste, is bad. Smoke also is a delicious taste, bad on the books. A study on smoked meats and ham concluded "No amount is safe". Every time I eat ham, I remind myself. No amount is safe. Therefore, if you're going to eat it, have as much as you want.

Acrylamide does develop on toast, because toast is made through a high heat process (toasting, ). I am sure toast worse for you than some things and better for you than others, but like some sources state, the study of acrylamide on foods is in the youth phase. There aren't too many studies out there on acrylamide. Other blog titles I could have used include:

"No More Roasted Potatoes For You!"

"Put Those French Fries Down!"

or the boring "Acrylamide"

Acrylamide does develop on toast,

....so does raspberry jam

Marmalade for me on my breakfast toast...
That's it, turn this into a what's best on toast thread.
At lunch time I pop home from work and have something savoury followed by a banana squashed onto toast and sprinkled with sugar, and a nice mug of tea.
Del

they say that toasted peanut butter and banana sandwich is pretty good. The King liked it......but look where it got him......... ^{that would be Elvis}

Those other blog titles, especially the simple "Acrylamide", may not have generated such interest in your work, Jaxy. If it's any consolation, T1tan01 has also taken some lumps for his choice of a title in The Olympic Torch: So Complex a Caveman Couldn't Do It.

Ignore 'em Jaxi.......it's winter and their acrylized polyps are acting up.........

This thread makes me miss the best French fries I've ever had--the extra crispy ones at Bert Grant's pub in Yakima, WA, USA--one of the first modern microbreweries. Eat, drink, and be merry, rather than accept a bland diet and bland life, albeit a bit longer and more boring! Years aren't everything, after all.

Funny you should mention a boring life. There was an article on Fox today that claims that being bored can result in premature death. I'm sure it's pseudoscience similar to the "watch out for killer toast" screed. But it does imply that if we're all going to die of something the overly cautious, bored worriers may go sooner than the rest of us.

Fox "News" is also good for its entertainment value.

One thing is clear....... burnt toast tends to make folks confrontational!

Jaxy,

Nice blog and facilitation.

I always find satisfaction when a blog starts with basic information, and the CR4 community comes through and fills in the gaps with more research.

p911